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It's about being able to display information anywhere. Many work tasks consist of using reference material to do something else. This isn't limited to the offic

It's about being able to display information anywhere. Many work tasks consist of using reference material to do something else. This isn't limited to the office. > thats not a Very enticing proposition Consider the following use cases: * A surgical team consulting a 3D CT scan as they remove the tumor threatening to kill you or someone you love * A firefighter who can overlay a building's plans over thick smoke * A rescue helicopter pilot who can see LIDAR and IR data as needed All of these are literally life-saving. However, office uses such as replacing multi-monitor desks are far more pleasant to encounter.

wilsonnb3 3y ago
I feel like these examples, and most examples of what AR is good for, are largely based on what looks cool in movies rather than what is actually more effective than looking at a screen or having someone speaking in your ear. AR definitely has real industrial uses but 90% of the examples people can think of are not better or are worse than current methods.
- XorNot 3y ago
  Monitors anywhere though is useful, the issue is that the technology to it isn't there. The 4K monitor I have sitting about 45cm from my face needs a 16K monitor sitting 5cm from my eyeballs to be adequately emulated. The problem is "virtual" monitors in VR aren't high enough FOV or resolution to be as useful as real monitors.
- pushfoo 3y ago
  TL;DR: I agree and favor the "boring" uses, but chose emotional examples since GP sounded disappointed by those I intentionally chose heroic examples because GP's viewpoint is understandable. Not everyone is as excited by window management and good UI as I am. OP's article touched on attention management through UI a little bit, but I think that concern isn't given enough attention. Using the most heroic scenarios possible helps drive the point home without getting grim, but I will now. To be blunt, it's a historical fact that bad UI kills people [1][2]. > AR definitely has real industrial uses but 90% of the examples people can think of are not better or are worse than current methods. I agree completely. My main concern is pinning manuals or reference sheets next to my work, even if paper fallback is still crucial. That's pretty much the use case for multi-monitor anyway. The surgical example is the same thing: CT scans are used to tell the surgeons where it's ok to cut. However, there's an extra benefit here: reducing the need for a physical 3D print of the skull reduces infection risk. It's one less thing to moved into and out of the OR. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25 2. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/uss-mccain-collision-ultimately-caused-by-ui-confusion/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/uss-m...
ekianjo 3y ago
If you could do any of these scenarios in real time, I'd rather trust robots to take any action in this kind of situation than any human whose attention is split between 3 different kind of screens or visuals. they already can't handle the few pieces of information that they have, adding more is asking for more confusion, like pilots in a plane not hearing the stall warning even though it's screaming in their ears.

wilsonnb3 3y ago

I feel like these examples, and most examples of what AR is good for, are largely based on what looks cool in movies rather than what is actually more effective than looking at a screen or having someone speaking in your ear. AR definitely has real industrial uses but 90% of the examples people can think of are not better or are worse than current methods.

XorNot 3y ago
Monitors anywhere though is useful, the issue is that the technology to it isn't there. The 4K monitor I have sitting about 45cm from my face needs a 16K monitor sitting 5cm from my eyeballs to be adequately emulated. The problem is "virtual" monitors in VR aren't high enough FOV or resolution to be as useful as real monitors.
pushfoo 3y ago
TL;DR: I agree and favor the "boring" uses, but chose emotional examples since GP sounded disappointed by those I intentionally chose heroic examples because GP's viewpoint is understandable. Not everyone is as excited by window management and good UI as I am. OP's article touched on attention management through UI a little bit, but I think that concern isn't given enough attention. Using the most heroic scenarios possible helps drive the point home without getting grim, but I will now. To be blunt, it's a historical fact that bad UI kills people [1][2]. > AR definitely has real industrial uses but 90% of the examples people can think of are not better or are worse than current methods. I agree completely. My main concern is pinning manuals or reference sheets next to my work, even if paper fallback is still crucial. That's pretty much the use case for multi-monitor anyway. The surgical example is the same thing: CT scans are used to tell the surgeons where it's ok to cut. However, there's an extra benefit here: reducing the need for a physical 3D print of the skull reduces infection risk. It's one less thing to moved into and out of the OR. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25 2. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/uss-mccain-collision-ultimately-caused-by-ui-confusion/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/uss-m...

ekianjo 3y ago

If you could do any of these scenarios in real time, I'd rather trust robots to take any action in this kind of situation than any human whose attention is split between 3 different kind of screens or visuals. they already can't handle the few pieces of information that they have, adding more is asking for more confusion, like pilots in a plane not hearing the stall warning even though it's screaming in their ears.