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"Pleasure cruises, golf and tracing the family tree are not that fulfilling" ok boomer, but what about video games? I've long had a suspicion that the relative

"Pleasure cruises, golf and tracing the family tree are not that fulfilling" ok boomer, but what about video games? I've long had a suspicion that the relative popularity of the FIRE movement among Millenials and Zoomers is largely due to the fact that they've found a hobby in interactive digital entertainment that's leaps and bounds more addictive, satisfying and fulfilling (at least in a shallow sense) than the hobbies of their elders. I enjoy working and don't plan on ever fully retiring, but certainly plan to leave the 9-5 lifestyle and working for others eventually to be a full time entrepreneur / indie hacker at some point. My first project towards that end is Grizzly Bulls (https://grizzlybulls.com/ https://grizzlybulls.com/), an algorithmic trading platform which is certainly going well enough to support myself full time, but I really enjoy my current FTE work too much to consider it for now.

malfist 3y ago
This post has a lot of ageist statements. I find it hard to believe that video games are a more fulfilling past time than something creative like woodworking or knitting. I find it hard to believe video games are fulfilling. They're a past time, not an achievement.
- thfuran 3y ago
  Is knitting an achievement?
  - munificent 3y ago
    Yes, it absolutely is. It's much harder than it looks. Even when you are skilled at it, making a significant knitting project is still a very large time commitment. Because of that, creating a knitting project and giving it to someone you care about can be a very deeply meaningful act for both the knitter and the receiver.
    - thfuran 3y ago
      >It's much harder than it looks So is Super meat boy. >Even when you are skilled at it, making a significant knitting project is still a very large time commitment. I don't think I know anyone who plays dota and would consider themselves skilled without having made a very considerable time commitment. >Because of that, creating a knitting project and giving it to someone you care about can be a very deeply meaningful act for both the knitter and the receiver. People can find meaning in just about anything.
      - munificent 3y ago
        > People can find meaning in just about anything. And how marvelous that is.
  - randcraw 3y ago
    As ye sew, so shall ye reap.
- endemic 3y ago
  The draw of games is exploring unique new worlds, and gaining a sense of mastery over them. What's not fulfilling about that?
- card_zero 3y ago
  Some video games (such as CDDA) include elements of woodworking and knitting.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
  This reminds me to get back on my belt-only Factorio save. Balancers are too much fun to work with. I'm also reminded of that time I tried to figure out a good 2-2 throughput unlimited balancer for a good 30 minutes before I realized I wanted a single splitter with two belts in and two belts out. Humbling and satisfying at the same time. Every hobby is a pastime, regardless of how outwardly creative it is. You get out what you put in.
- Izkata 3y ago
  As someone who used to knit regularly, I see it the other way around. It was just something to keep my hands busy.

malfist 3y ago

This post has a lot of ageist statements. I find it hard to believe that video games are a more fulfilling past time than something creative like woodworking or knitting. I find it hard to believe video games are fulfilling. They're a past time, not an achievement.

thfuran 3y ago
Is knitting an achievement?
- munificent 3y ago
  Yes, it absolutely is. It's much harder than it looks. Even when you are skilled at it, making a significant knitting project is still a very large time commitment. Because of that, creating a knitting project and giving it to someone you care about can be a very deeply meaningful act for both the knitter and the receiver.
  - thfuran 3y ago
    >It's much harder than it looks So is Super meat boy. >Even when you are skilled at it, making a significant knitting project is still a very large time commitment. I don't think I know anyone who plays dota and would consider themselves skilled without having made a very considerable time commitment. >Because of that, creating a knitting project and giving it to someone you care about can be a very deeply meaningful act for both the knitter and the receiver. People can find meaning in just about anything.
    - munificent 3y ago
      > People can find meaning in just about anything. And how marvelous that is.
- randcraw 3y ago
  As ye sew, so shall ye reap.
endemic 3y ago
The draw of games is exploring unique new worlds, and gaining a sense of mastery over them. What's not fulfilling about that?
card_zero 3y ago
Some video games (such as CDDA) include elements of woodworking and knitting.
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
This reminds me to get back on my belt-only Factorio save. Balancers are too much fun to work with. I'm also reminded of that time I tried to figure out a good 2-2 throughput unlimited balancer for a good 30 minutes before I realized I wanted a single splitter with two belts in and two belts out. Humbling and satisfying at the same time. Every hobby is a pastime, regardless of how outwardly creative it is. You get out what you put in.
Izkata 3y ago
As someone who used to knit regularly, I see it the other way around. It was just something to keep my hands busy.