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Not until just now I didn't. Do they not have a smartphone? A personal laptop? I'm waiting for something to build as I'm typing this right now. On a separate co

Not until just now I didn't. Do they not have a smartphone? A personal laptop? I'm waiting for something to build as I'm typing this right now. On a separate computer. I would never go on Hacker News on my work computer. Why would I use a device to do personal things that they MITM everything I do on it? Privacy is too important to me to give it away like that. I'm sure all traffic on the corporate network is logged. Why open myself up for grounds for termination if my company hits hard times and wants to lay people off?

michaelt 3y ago
If you're sitting in the office waiting for something to build, and you get out your phone to go on HN I'm sorry to say that is probably not the sort of professionalism that's going to afford you much protection from layoffs.
- rthomas6 3y ago
  Probably so, but at least my company can't MITM and log all my traffic.
  - ethbr1 3y ago
    Agreed. The presumption should be that anything on a work computer is visible to, logged, and retained by your employer. It was a public case, but the essentially unanimous Supreme Court opinion in City of Ontario v. Quon [0, 2010] shows what expectations of privacy you should have on any work devices -- none. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Ontario_v._Quon https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Ontario_v._Quon
    - Symbiote 3y ago
      Unsurprisingly, the EU has a different idea about employee's privacy when using a work computer. Reasonable or limited private use of a work computer remains private. https://edps.europa.eu/data-protection/data-protection/reference-library/private-use-electronic-communications-workplace_en https://edps.europa.eu/data-protection/data-protection/refer...
- fsociety 3y ago
  This comes off as passive aggressive and misinformed. I agree with not putting personal things on work devices as much as possible. Been in the industry for a while now, no one cares if you pull out your phone. Generally, people treat others like adults not children.

michaelt 3y ago

If you're sitting in the office waiting for something to build, and you get out your phone to go on HN I'm sorry to say that is probably not the sort of professionalism that's going to afford you much protection from layoffs.

rthomas6 3y ago
Probably so, but at least my company can't MITM and log all my traffic.
- ethbr1 3y ago
  Agreed. The presumption should be that anything on a work computer is visible to, logged, and retained by your employer. It was a public case, but the essentially unanimous Supreme Court opinion in City of Ontario v. Quon [0, 2010] shows what expectations of privacy you should have on any work devices -- none. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Ontario_v._Quon https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Ontario_v._Quon
  - Symbiote 3y ago
    Unsurprisingly, the EU has a different idea about employee's privacy when using a work computer. Reasonable or limited private use of a work computer remains private. https://edps.europa.eu/data-protection/data-protection/reference-library/private-use-electronic-communications-workplace_en https://edps.europa.eu/data-protection/data-protection/refer...
fsociety 3y ago
This comes off as passive aggressive and misinformed. I agree with not putting personal things on work devices as much as possible. Been in the industry for a while now, no one cares if you pull out your phone. Generally, people treat others like adults not children.