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What types of data exactly are you implying that this device may capture that would be any more extreme than the data which would be captured by any other exist

What types of data exactly are you implying that this device may capture that would be any more extreme than the data which would be captured by any other existing Apple device? I would think the Apple Watch alone has the ability to capture more data about habits and personal information than the Apple Vision Pro possibly could, considering its countless additional sensors on top of its existing ecosystem integration with the iPhone.

steelframe 3y ago
Did you read the article for the post I linked? I don't care about the data it captures on the wearer. If you're inclined to hand over all that telemetry on yourself to other people, I don't know what to tell you. I care very much about the high-resolution cameras it has pointed at me. I don't think that's okay.
- methodical 3y ago
  Unfortunately no I didn't read the article you linked, I still don't see how this device collects any additional data over what is already available for other devices in the Apple ecosystem. Anybody who has used a Mac, iPhone, or iPad has had HD cameras pointed at them. To clarify, my point with this comment and my first one was never that data collection (and as far as I can tell mass surveillance as well to you?) was okay, rather that I don't see how this device captures any more data on a wearer than the other devices they likely own.
  - schmorptron 3y ago
    I think GP's point was that it normalizes having cameras pointed at other people at all times while you're wearing it or similar devices. I see a much bigger issue in this regard with the meta ray ban sunglasses, since those will actually be worn by people outside. We already have cameras pointed all around public spaces, but this device category will increase that coverage to near ubiquity long-term. When you are in the presence of someone wearing this, you're being captures by 4 or more high-res cameras, in 3d, whether you want it or not.

steelframe 3y ago

Did you read the article for the post I linked? I don't care about the data it captures on the wearer. If you're inclined to hand over all that telemetry on yourself to other people, I don't know what to tell you. I care very much about the high-resolution cameras it has pointed at me. I don't think that's okay.

methodical 3y ago
Unfortunately no I didn't read the article you linked, I still don't see how this device collects any additional data over what is already available for other devices in the Apple ecosystem. Anybody who has used a Mac, iPhone, or iPad has had HD cameras pointed at them. To clarify, my point with this comment and my first one was never that data collection (and as far as I can tell mass surveillance as well to you?) was okay, rather that I don't see how this device captures any more data on a wearer than the other devices they likely own.
- schmorptron 3y ago
  I think GP's point was that it normalizes having cameras pointed at other people at all times while you're wearing it or similar devices. I see a much bigger issue in this regard with the meta ray ban sunglasses, since those will actually be worn by people outside. We already have cameras pointed all around public spaces, but this device category will increase that coverage to near ubiquity long-term. When you are in the presence of someone wearing this, you're being captures by 4 or more high-res cameras, in 3d, whether you want it or not.