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I don't think if I had $2 billion in proceeds from a piracy website I would choose to reside in Germany.

by jstrong 3y ago

paulpauper 3y ago
sure better than residing in the US which hands out huge sentences like Halloween candy .
- Bluecobra 3y ago
  Very true, the guy who hacked into Valve and leaked HL2 got 2 years probation in Germany. https://www.svg.com/899802/the-real-reason-valve-wanted-to-offer-this-hacker-a-job/ https://www.svg.com/899802/the-real-reason-valve-wanted-to-o...
  - f1shy 3y ago
    The only thing with you do not f*k around in Germany is taxes. For the rest, the fines and sentences are a joke.
    - pimeys 3y ago
      This one is also questionable in a country that allows you to buy a Porsche with cash, and which in general has its capital full cash only casinos and bars. But yes, if you play by the book, you definitely don't want to mess with the Finanzamt.
      - sva_ 3y ago
        There's a planned limit making sales above 10k Euro in cash illegal, afaik.
      - lifestyleguru 3y ago
        > you definitely don't want to mess with the Finanzamt. *as a nonaffluent individual.
      - matheusmoreira 3y ago
        > allows you to buy a Porsche with cash What's wrong with that?
        pimeys 3y ago
        It's well-known that the Italian mobsters are coming to Germany to buy cars with their drug money with nobody noticing. For example.
        matheusmoreira 3y ago
        Not a good enough reason to place arbitrary limits on the use of cash. People should be free to buy a car with cash.
    - wolverine876 3y ago
      It seems like a very law-abiding, low-crime place. Are fines and sentences ineffective?
      - f1shy 3y ago
        The rate of violent crimes against people is low, but higher that you may feel by reading the newspapers. There is lots of crime, but typically not violent against other people. Having you home break-in is relatively common.
weinzierl 3y ago
You'd need both: law enforcement that looks the other way when it comes to the crimes you commit and good infrastructure. Countries with one or the other are easy to find, but both?
- oskarkk 3y ago
  You can rent infrastructure from a provider from a country you don't reside in.
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hobofan 3y ago
While the people behind this website were indeed caught in Germany, providers of similar popular streaming piracy sites (kinox.to and movie4k.to) have/had warrants out for them internationally as well as house searches all over Europe. They really don't joke around when it comes to copyright infringement.
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patall 3y ago
Beyond what other wrote: A polish and a german citizen. Website was taken down in 2013, but they were imprisoned in 2019. Maybe they thought they had got away with it?

I don't think if I had $2 billion in proceeds from a piracy website I would choose to reside in Germany.

paulpauper 3y ago

sure better than residing in the US which hands out huge sentences like Halloween candy .

Bluecobra 3y ago
Very true, the guy who hacked into Valve and leaked HL2 got 2 years probation in Germany. https://www.svg.com/899802/the-real-reason-valve-wanted-to-offer-this-hacker-a-job/ https://www.svg.com/899802/the-real-reason-valve-wanted-to-o...
- f1shy 3y ago
  The only thing with you do not f*k around in Germany is taxes. For the rest, the fines and sentences are a joke.
  - pimeys 3y ago
    This one is also questionable in a country that allows you to buy a Porsche with cash, and which in general has its capital full cash only casinos and bars. But yes, if you play by the book, you definitely don't want to mess with the Finanzamt.
    - sva_ 3y ago
      There's a planned limit making sales above 10k Euro in cash illegal, afaik.
    - lifestyleguru 3y ago
      > you definitely don't want to mess with the Finanzamt. *as a nonaffluent individual.
    - matheusmoreira 3y ago
      > allows you to buy a Porsche with cash What's wrong with that?
      - pimeys 3y ago
        It's well-known that the Italian mobsters are coming to Germany to buy cars with their drug money with nobody noticing. For example.
        matheusmoreira 3y ago
        Not a good enough reason to place arbitrary limits on the use of cash. People should be free to buy a car with cash.
  - wolverine876 3y ago
    It seems like a very law-abiding, low-crime place. Are fines and sentences ineffective?
    - f1shy 3y ago
      The rate of violent crimes against people is low, but higher that you may feel by reading the newspapers. There is lots of crime, but typically not violent against other people. Having you home break-in is relatively common.

weinzierl 3y ago

You'd need both: law enforcement that looks the other way when it comes to the crimes you commit and good infrastructure. Countries with one or the other are easy to find, but both?

oskarkk 3y ago
You can rent infrastructure from a provider from a country you don't reside in.
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hobofan 3y ago

While the people behind this website were indeed caught in Germany, providers of similar popular streaming piracy sites (kinox.to and movie4k.to) have/had warrants out for them internationally as well as house searches all over Europe. They really don't joke around when it comes to copyright infringement.

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patall 3y ago

Beyond what other wrote: A polish and a german citizen. Website was taken down in 2013, but they were imprisoned in 2019. Maybe they thought they had got away with it?