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One of the biggest scandals in Norwegian health care at the moment is a botched transition to Epic in one of the biggest university hospitals. Doctor dissatisfa

One of the biggest scandals in Norwegian health care at the moment is a botched transition to Epic in one of the biggest university hospitals. Doctor dissatisfaction has gone to the roof at the point where 50% of the doctors are considering quitting. https://www.nrk.no/trondelag/70-leger-soker-aktivt-ny-jobb-ved-st.-olavs-hospital-etter-innforingen-av-helseplattformen-1.16348026 https://www.nrk.no/trondelag/70-leger-soker-aktivt-ny-jobb-v...

sl-1 3y ago
Same thing going on in Finland [1]. 1. https://fi-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true#Kritiikki https://fi-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_...
- sergioisidoro 3y ago
  Your link is broken. I believe you wanted to link the Apotti wiki page https://fi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotti_(potilastietoj%C3%A4rjestelm%C3%A4) https://fi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotti_(potilastietoj%C3%A4r...
danielovichdk 3y ago
Denmark transitioned to Epic some years ago. It was a major frustration on many levels. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1386505622001824 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S13865...
briffle 3y ago
EPIC is flashy, has a gorgous campus in Madison, WI, and has lots of marketing. but at its core, it runs on MUMPS as both a language and database. I know many people that have worked on their integration teams, and could not imagine having to deal with what they do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUMPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUMPS
- karmajunkie 3y ago
  my team is about to start working on an epic integration and i can safely say we’ve all thought briefly about staging a revolt… i just keep telling myself “at least it’s not meditech…”
ghufran_syed 3y ago
Maybe they are different versions, or I'm an outlier, but I love epic - I used a relatively new build of the software last year for a new months, just the ability to message other staff in the context of a patient's chart saved huge amounts of time and interruptions. They also had this super low friction way of addending to the chart, so you could, say, review a (paper) ECG and start recording your interpretation straight into the correct chart within a second or two, and be done in around 10 seconds (with dicatation software which is usually from a different company but integrated)

sl-1 3y ago

Same thing going on in Finland [1]. 1. https://fi-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true#Kritiikki https://fi-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_...

sergioisidoro 3y ago
Your link is broken. I believe you wanted to link the Apotti wiki page https://fi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotti_(potilastietoj%C3%A4rjestelm%C3%A4) https://fi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotti_(potilastietoj%C3%A4r...

danielovichdk 3y ago

Denmark transitioned to Epic some years ago. It was a major frustration on many levels. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1386505622001824 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S13865...

briffle 3y ago

EPIC is flashy, has a gorgous campus in Madison, WI, and has lots of marketing. but at its core, it runs on MUMPS as both a language and database. I know many people that have worked on their integration teams, and could not imagine having to deal with what they do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUMPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUMPS

karmajunkie 3y ago
my team is about to start working on an epic integration and i can safely say we’ve all thought briefly about staging a revolt… i just keep telling myself “at least it’s not meditech…”

ghufran_syed 3y ago

Maybe they are different versions, or I'm an outlier, but I love epic - I used a relatively new build of the software last year for a new months, just the ability to message other staff in the context of a patient's chart saved huge amounts of time and interruptions. They also had this super low friction way of addending to the chart, so you could, say, review a (paper) ECG and start recording your interpretation straight into the correct chart within a second or two, and be done in around 10 seconds (with dicatation software which is usually from a different company but integrated)