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Have you not seen people vaping at a young age now?
by LynxInLA 3y ago
Have you not seen people vaping at a young age now?
- ceejayoz 3y agoVaping isn't the same thing as smoking.
- lbhdc 3y agoThey are consuming nicotine, and tobacco companies are invested in / are the companies producing products in that space. It seems functionally to be the same.
- ceejayoz 3y agoOnly if you ignore... a lot. Cancer rates, smoking sections in restaurants, the smell, the yellow grime and used butts sprinkled everywhere, the impact on asthmatics... Smoking a cigarette gets you a lot more than just the nicotine. A smoker moving to vaping is an enormous benefit to health and society.
- lbhdc 3y agoThat sounds like you are being disingenuous. Smoking sections haven't been a thing in the US for a long time (I went to the last one I could find around 2009). Waste from single use vapes is also a huge problem. Similarly there are health effects specific to vaping, time will tell if cancer is among them.
- ceejayoz 3y ago> Smoking sections haven't been a thing in the US for a long time... Yes, the regulations that made this happen are good. That's my point. > Waste from single use vapes is also a huge problem. Nothing like the cigarette butts that used to be everywhere. > Similarly there are health effects specific to vaping, time will tell if cancer is among them. We've plenty of data to safely conclude vaping is safer than smoking tobacco. That doesn't make it safe, but it's absolutely safer.
- lbhdc 3y ago[flagged]
- ceejayoz 3y ago> It seems like vaping is close enough to smoking to say that it is functionally close enough to be equated. Bullshit. Both are nicotine delivery methods. One is far better for both individual and societal reasons. Water and whiskey are both wet, but that doesn't make them the same. > But you have raised my curiosity about your relationship with vaping. Do you work in the industry? No, nor do I vape/smoke. I'm just old enough to remember how shitty it was to have smokers everywhere, in a way that isn't the case for vapers... and I've seen the multi-decade decline in lung cancer incidence stats.
- lbhdc 3y ago[flagged]
- sneak 3y agoNo, they are not remotely the same. Nicotine isn’t really that harmful, but combustion byproducts very much are. Also the effects on bystanders are orders of magnitude better. Most of the harm from smoking comes from the smoke, not the nicotine or associated addiction.
- huytersd 3y agoNicotine by itself is harmless besides the addictiveness. A nicotine addiction is not going to drastically affect your mental state or cause socially disruptive behavior like domestic violence or armed robbery so it’s really nothing to be concerned about.
- LynxInLA 3y agoI agree it is different, but the jury is out on whether it is better. Banning "social media" is likely to push users to a "lite" version of it. I'm not convinced that will be better.
- bigfishrunning 3y agoI would call IRC "social media lite", and it is indeed better.
- blitzar 3y agoVaping is way cooler than smoking.
- huytersd 3y agoVaping (non flavored) vapes has basically a negligible impact on your health.