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Answering a problem with unenforceable garbage like this doesn't seem like a very sound strategy.

soco 3y ago
This discussion can be seen every time when the EU decides on some regulation against tech industry. A lot of people will jump that it won't be enforced, then when we see the first fines those people will jump that it won't move a needle, then when the tech giants do change a bit their course then... well the tech bros will always find a reason to jump against doing anything to curb tech.
- lupire 3y ago
  This is not a "tech bro" thing. It's not particular to tech nor bros. This a business thing. Phillip Morris weren't "tech bros".
  - soco 3y ago
    You are right. I was having in mind the HN crowd when I commented.
brodouevencode 3y ago
Enforceability is a foregone conclusion, and when it comes to things like this it's somewhat expected. The same can be said for pornography, drugs and alcohol and tobacco (remember Joe Camel?), and anything else that would fall under blue-laws. The goal of this is to bring attention to the fact that it's a problem and should be seen as undesirable, like pornography or Joe Camel. The cancellation of Joe didn't prevent kids from getting cigarettes but it did draw attention to the situation and there has been a marked decline in youth smoking since the late 90s when the mascot was removed. It's correlative, for sure, but the outcomes are undeniable. The same happened with the DARE program and class 1 drugs (except for marijuana iirc).
- 20after4 3y ago
  Multiple studies have determined that the dare program is entirely or almost entirely ineffective. Here's just one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448384/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448384/
o11c 3y ago
It doesn't have to be perfectly enforceable to have a positive effect. Even just making illegal the promotion of social media toward children would have a huge effect.
- plorg 3y ago
  Seeing this opinion all over this thread. Unenforceable laws are one way to create the pretext for discriminatory enforcement. And you have to be trolling with your second paragraph.
  - o11c 3y ago
    Are you aware of e.g. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/facebook-documents-reveal-company-targeted-children-young-6-rcna4021 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/facebook-documents... ?

soco 3y ago

This discussion can be seen every time when the EU decides on some regulation against tech industry. A lot of people will jump that it won't be enforced, then when we see the first fines those people will jump that it won't move a needle, then when the tech giants do change a bit their course then... well the tech bros will always find a reason to jump against doing anything to curb tech.

lupire 3y ago
This is not a "tech bro" thing. It's not particular to tech nor bros. This a business thing. Phillip Morris weren't "tech bros".
- soco 3y ago
  You are right. I was having in mind the HN crowd when I commented.

brodouevencode 3y ago

Enforceability is a foregone conclusion, and when it comes to things like this it's somewhat expected. The same can be said for pornography, drugs and alcohol and tobacco (remember Joe Camel?), and anything else that would fall under blue-laws. The goal of this is to bring attention to the fact that it's a problem and should be seen as undesirable, like pornography or Joe Camel. The cancellation of Joe didn't prevent kids from getting cigarettes but it did draw attention to the situation and there has been a marked decline in youth smoking since the late 90s when the mascot was removed. It's correlative, for sure, but the outcomes are undeniable. The same happened with the DARE program and class 1 drugs (except for marijuana iirc).

20after4 3y ago
Multiple studies have determined that the dare program is entirely or almost entirely ineffective. Here's just one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448384/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448384/

o11c 3y ago

It doesn't have to be perfectly enforceable to have a positive effect. Even just making illegal the promotion of social media toward children would have a huge effect.

plorg 3y ago
Seeing this opinion all over this thread. Unenforceable laws are one way to create the pretext for discriminatory enforcement. And you have to be trolling with your second paragraph.
- o11c 3y ago
  Are you aware of e.g. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/facebook-documents-reveal-company-targeted-children-young-6-rcna4021 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/facebook-documents... ?