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Looks pretty generically neutral to me. What do you find objectionable here? Edit: I guess the comments are loading for me in goog translate. Is that what I

Looks pretty generically neutral to me. What do you find objectionable here? Edit: I guess the comments are loading for me in goog translate. Is that what I should be looking at?

actualwitch 3y ago
That post was a reaction to the war and a lot of people trying to talk about it and getting banned for it. It was one of the major exodus triggers after which the site was practically empty of engagement for months. Here's a link to comments, the gist is a bunch of people are mad that admins are choosing the "no politics" route: https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/653685/comments/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/6...
- vdaea 3y ago
  People who like to talk politics absolutely everywhere have ruined every single social network I know. "No politics" is probably the most intelligent way to go.
  - actualwitch 3y ago
    You'd fit right in on habr, in a society specifically built to not discuss politics. Complimentary tumbleweed in comments included!
  - fweimer 3y ago
    No politics is only feasible if your life or your existence isn't considered political in itself, or maybe if you can hide how you challenge the status quo without harming yourself.
    - vdaea 3y ago
      I don't see how that changes anything. Even if you feel that way, a forum about computing is not the place to spread your political ideas.
  - layer8 3y ago
    The problem is that what is considered “politics” has vastly expanded over the past decade or so. Most controversial topics today wouldn’t have been considered “politics” in the past.
    - vdaea 3y ago
      >Habr is a Russian collaborative blog about IT, computer science and anything related to the Internet, owned by TechMedia. In this context, demanding the staff makes public where they stand in the conflict in Ukraine is toxic.
      - actualwitch 3y ago
        In context of habr, even asking "why'd my internet/corporate vpn stopped working?" or "why did I suddenly get summoned for a medical checkup to enlistment office?" are politics.
  - shagie 3y ago
    Keep Your Identity Small - https://paulgraham.com/identity.html https://paulgraham.com/identity.html Which begins with... > I finally realized today why politics and religion yield such uniquely useless discussions. > As a rule, any mention of religion on an online forum degenerates into a religious argument. Why? Why does this happen with religion and not with Javascript or baking or other topics people talk about on forums? > What's different about religion is that people don't feel they need to have any particular expertise to have opinions about it. All they need is strongly held beliefs, and anyone can have those. No thread about Javascript will grow as fast as one about religion, because people feel they have to be over some threshold of expertise to post comments about that. But on religion everyone's an expert. > Then it struck me: this is the problem with politics too. Politics, like religion, is a topic where there's no threshold of expertise for expressing an opinion. All you need is strong convictions.
  - ParetoOptimal 3y ago
    I don't want to hear about your "no politics" politics ;-)
- kgeist 3y ago
  You're on HN. It has a similar rule: Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - layer8 3y ago
    This rule doesn’t mean “no political topics”.
    - dirtyhippiefree 3y ago
      However, it •effectively• does… Intent of rule v. rule in practice…
      - layer8 3y ago
        No, it doesn’t. HN does have political discussions in line with the rules, that is, approved by dang. One recent example being https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39143043 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39143043.

Looks pretty generically neutral to me. What do you find objectionable here? Edit: I guess the comments are loading for me in goog translate. Is that what I should be looking at?

actualwitch 3y ago

That post was a reaction to the war and a lot of people trying to talk about it and getting banned for it. It was one of the major exodus triggers after which the site was practically empty of engagement for months. Here's a link to comments, the gist is a bunch of people are mad that admins are choosing the "no politics" route: https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/653685/comments/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/6...

vdaea 3y ago
People who like to talk politics absolutely everywhere have ruined every single social network I know. "No politics" is probably the most intelligent way to go.
- actualwitch 3y ago
  You'd fit right in on habr, in a society specifically built to not discuss politics. Complimentary tumbleweed in comments included!
- fweimer 3y ago
  No politics is only feasible if your life or your existence isn't considered political in itself, or maybe if you can hide how you challenge the status quo without harming yourself.
  - vdaea 3y ago
    I don't see how that changes anything. Even if you feel that way, a forum about computing is not the place to spread your political ideas.
- layer8 3y ago
  The problem is that what is considered “politics” has vastly expanded over the past decade or so. Most controversial topics today wouldn’t have been considered “politics” in the past.
  - vdaea 3y ago
    >Habr is a Russian collaborative blog about IT, computer science and anything related to the Internet, owned by TechMedia. In this context, demanding the staff makes public where they stand in the conflict in Ukraine is toxic.
    - actualwitch 3y ago
      In context of habr, even asking "why'd my internet/corporate vpn stopped working?" or "why did I suddenly get summoned for a medical checkup to enlistment office?" are politics.
- shagie 3y ago
  Keep Your Identity Small - https://paulgraham.com/identity.html https://paulgraham.com/identity.html Which begins with... > I finally realized today why politics and religion yield such uniquely useless discussions. > As a rule, any mention of religion on an online forum degenerates into a religious argument. Why? Why does this happen with religion and not with Javascript or baking or other topics people talk about on forums? > What's different about religion is that people don't feel they need to have any particular expertise to have opinions about it. All they need is strongly held beliefs, and anyone can have those. No thread about Javascript will grow as fast as one about religion, because people feel they have to be over some threshold of expertise to post comments about that. But on religion everyone's an expert. > Then it struck me: this is the problem with politics too. Politics, like religion, is a topic where there's no threshold of expertise for expressing an opinion. All you need is strong convictions.
- ParetoOptimal 3y ago
  I don't want to hear about your "no politics" politics ;-)
kgeist 3y ago
You're on HN. It has a similar rule: Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- layer8 3y ago
  This rule doesn’t mean “no political topics”.
  - dirtyhippiefree 3y ago
    However, it •effectively• does… Intent of rule v. rule in practice…
    - layer8 3y ago
      No, it doesn’t. HN does have political discussions in line with the rules, that is, approved by dang. One recent example being https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39143043 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39143043.