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oh my god when will js devs learn this cycle has been going on so much longer than 7 years? I mean it's almost funny if it wasn't so depressing that JavaScript

oh my god when will js devs learn this cycle has been going on so much longer than 7 years? I mean it's almost funny if it wasn't so depressing that JavaScript is eating up all the web dev jobs.

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
I get a feeling that JS is tainting everything. JSON is used everywhere, JS is used to build desktop apps, new languages are infected with JS-like features.
- eviks 3y ago
  Which features are like infections?
sidewndr46 3y ago
There is this book "The Fourth Turning" that makes some very outrageous claims about cycles in American History. Perhaps the book is actually correct, just it turns out to be about the Javascript ecosystem
- anotherhue 3y ago
  Or all Turning complete languages.
- simne 3y ago
  But Javascript is ECMA standard, and ECMA is international entity (as I understand, mostly EU). So this is about EU making cycles in American History? :)
jauntywundrkind 3y ago
Js is eating up? Js-uber-alles has largely been the way of things for half a decade! And the pendulum has already headed strong back & is gaining speed! That's what's changing, now: there's finally other options again! The recent WASI 0.2.0 submission/discussion is about WASI, a chiefly server-side oriented system & so far server-side component model, but this component model is the cross-platform gateway that is opening up the (vastly larger now) webdev world to something that a long time ago the web was incredibly at: being a place for many different languages to come & try stuff out. And this time it'll be in a cross-language form! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39143054 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39143054 You're right it's been a direction for a long time. I hope some other languages & communities can find & expose worthy incredibly interesting offerings that lure us off the beaten path we are on. It'll be technically/mechanically much easier to do, starting now-ish, but whether there is distinct clear value to writing your core in other languages is so far very unclear. Will it make a difference? Will other ideas arise & prove valuable & steer us onwards? T.B.D.

oh my god when will js devs learn this cycle has been going on so much longer than 7 years? I mean it's almost funny if it wasn't so depressing that JavaScript is eating up all the web dev jobs.

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago

I get a feeling that JS is tainting everything. JSON is used everywhere, JS is used to build desktop apps, new languages are infected with JS-like features.

eviks 3y ago
Which features are like infections?

sidewndr46 3y ago

There is this book "The Fourth Turning" that makes some very outrageous claims about cycles in American History. Perhaps the book is actually correct, just it turns out to be about the Javascript ecosystem

anotherhue 3y ago
Or all Turning complete languages.
simne 3y ago
But Javascript is ECMA standard, and ECMA is international entity (as I understand, mostly EU). So this is about EU making cycles in American History? :)

jauntywundrkind 3y ago

Js is eating up? Js-uber-alles has largely been the way of things for half a decade! And the pendulum has already headed strong back & is gaining speed! That's what's changing, now: there's finally other options again! The recent WASI 0.2.0 submission/discussion is about WASI, a chiefly server-side oriented system & so far server-side component model, but this component model is the cross-platform gateway that is opening up the (vastly larger now) webdev world to something that a long time ago the web was incredibly at: being a place for many different languages to come & try stuff out. And this time it'll be in a cross-language form! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39143054 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39143054 You're right it's been a direction for a long time. I hope some other languages & communities can find & expose worthy incredibly interesting offerings that lure us off the beaten path we are on. It'll be technically/mechanically much easier to do, starting now-ish, but whether there is distinct clear value to writing your core in other languages is so far very unclear. Will it make a difference? Will other ideas arise & prove valuable & steer us onwards? T.B.D.