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I thought it was Australian, like how Chicken Tikka Masala is British
by insaider 3y ago
I thought it was Australian, like how Chicken Tikka Masala is British
- sandworm101 3y agoIf it is a meat dish, from India, it is far more likely to have been invented by Indians for the Brits living in India. Whether that makes it Indian or British I leave to others.
- smt88 3y agoThat's not true. Huge numbers of Indians aren't Hindu and do eat meat. Less than 40% of the country is vegetarian. There are meat dishes that pre-date the arrival of the British, although it's true that almost all Indian food has been altered by British colonialism.
- kranner 3y agoAnd Portuguese colonialism. Practically all modern Punjabi food from makki to rajma is from South America.
- mangamadaiyan 3y agoDon't forget the Pav Bhaji. The "Pav" in the name of the dish derives from Portuguese "Pāo". I'll stop with this and refrain from mentioning how South Indian cuisine has been corrupted by Northern Indian cultural imperialism :)
- mangamadaiyan 3y agoToo late to edit, didn't see the typo earlier. s/pāo/pão/ .
- rational_indian 3y agoThe pav is actually pronounced as pao sometimes.
- mangamadaiyan 3y agoThe Portuguese "Pão" sounds more like the French "Pan". "Pav" or "Pao" is the Indianization.
- fuzztester 3y ago>Don't forget the Pav Bhaji. Dont forget the vada pav either. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vada_pav https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vada_pav Not a bad dish, though carb-heavy, like pav bhaji. I've had it many times when I lived in Maharashtra. For me, it's incomplete without the fried and salted green chillies as an accompaniment. Yum. :)
- mangamadaiyan 3y agoYum indeed! I also make sure to ask for an extra helping of the (dry) peanut chutney. That and the green chillies are must-haves with a vada pav for me :)
- fuzztester 3y agoI don't remember that dry peanut chutney. Do you mean thecha? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thecha https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thecha I have read about it, but unfortunately I did not come across it, despite living in Maharashtra for some years. Got to say, from the description, it sounds like it would taste quite good. And could be a good accompaniment to many dishes.
- mangamadaiyan 3y agoI've always heard it referred to as "Dana Chutney", Dana being a contraction of Shengdana. I don't know if it's the same thing as Thecha, though -- but it does fit the description. I'm wondering if this is a geographical difference in culinary terminology :)
- fuzztester 3y agoYes, I think it must be the same. Dana (as a short form) and shengdana both mean peanuts, in Marathi, the main language of Maharashtra. Actually dana means seed in both Marathi and Hindi, as in anardana, which means pomegranate (seed), meaning the part of the pomegranate that you eat. As you said, words can vary a lot between regions - and not just for culinary terms.
- dabber 3y ago> And Portuguese colonialism. Practically all modern Punjabi food from makki to rajma is from South America. Vindeloo is derived from Portuguese cuisine as well. In fact, the Portuguese are widely accredited with introducing spicy chili peppers into Indian cuisine.
- fuzztester 3y agoVindaloo has been corrupted from the original. I've had both kinds, both in Goa. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vindaloo https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vindaloo The original did not have potatoes. but because aloo means potato in Hindi, others have changed the dish by including potatoes.
- fuzztester 3y ago>Huge numbers of Indians aren't Hindu and do eat meat. Just in case anyone has the wrong idea (and I guess some people do), being Hindu does not equate to not eating meat. Many Hindus eat meat (and many don't (though even that has nuances)), and have done so from ancient times, not just nowadays because of modernisation or westernization, although that has increased the percentage too, IMO.