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"A computer can never be held accountable, so has increasingly been used to make management decisions." — IBM slide from 1979. AI didn't wrongly convict anyone

"A computer can never be held accountable, so has increasingly been used to make management decisions." — IBM slide from 1979. AI didn't wrongly convict anyone. People leveraging AI did.

aredox 3y ago
Do you have a link to a source?
- tiborsaas 3y ago
  I've found this: https://twitter.com/MIT_CSAIL/status/1604884273789603842 https://twitter.com/MIT_CSAIL/status/1604884273789603842
- polonbike 3y ago
  That one slide can easily be found via google, but I cannot find the full presentation
mikaoj85 3y ago
That’s not quite the correct quote. Source: https://twitter.com/MIT_CSAIL/status/1604884273789603842 https://twitter.com/MIT_CSAIL/status/1604884273789603842
adhesive_wombat 3y ago
I believe the 1979 original read "...Therefore a computer must never make a management decision". https://constelisvoss.com/en-gb/pages/a-computer-can-never-be-held-accountable https://constelisvoss.com/en-gb/pages/a-computer-can-never-b...
- bmitc 3y ago
  I think I actually like the misquote, as it's more powerful, although the original is more prescriptive.
  - pixl97 3y ago
    "Computers don't argue"
paxys 3y ago
And AI didn't cause his rape, the prison system did.
- pixl97 3y ago
  Eh, an abusive system inside of an abusive system. It's best to look at it in its entirety to get a view of the systemic abuse.
pclmulqdq 3y ago
This is exactly why computers are being used to make management decisions. Diffusion of responsibility is a hell of a drug.
IG_Semmelweiss 3y ago
Can we have an honest conversation about all the people enabling X , not just those making management decisions? If we design an algorithm that will be used to put people in jail by algorithm [1], is that exempt from culpability? What about the engineer that implements it? If they are not responsible, but the code is buggy and the bugs cause real harm, are they now to blame? Where is the line that we should not cross ? [1] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hertz-to-pay-168-million-in-bogus-customers-jail-rental-cars-stolen/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hertz-to-pay-168-million-in-bog...

"A computer can never be held accountable, so has increasingly been used to make management decisions." — IBM slide from 1979. AI didn't wrongly convict anyone. People leveraging AI did.

aredox 3y ago

Do you have a link to a source?

tiborsaas 3y ago
I've found this: https://twitter.com/MIT_CSAIL/status/1604884273789603842 https://twitter.com/MIT_CSAIL/status/1604884273789603842
polonbike 3y ago
That one slide can easily be found via google, but I cannot find the full presentation

mikaoj85 3y ago

That’s not quite the correct quote. Source: https://twitter.com/MIT_CSAIL/status/1604884273789603842 https://twitter.com/MIT_CSAIL/status/1604884273789603842

adhesive_wombat 3y ago

I believe the 1979 original read "...Therefore a computer must never make a management decision". https://constelisvoss.com/en-gb/pages/a-computer-can-never-be-held-accountable https://constelisvoss.com/en-gb/pages/a-computer-can-never-b...

bmitc 3y ago
I think I actually like the misquote, as it's more powerful, although the original is more prescriptive.
- pixl97 3y ago
  "Computers don't argue"

paxys 3y ago

And AI didn't cause his rape, the prison system did.

pixl97 3y ago
Eh, an abusive system inside of an abusive system. It's best to look at it in its entirety to get a view of the systemic abuse.

pclmulqdq 3y ago

This is exactly why computers are being used to make management decisions. Diffusion of responsibility is a hell of a drug.

IG_Semmelweiss 3y ago

Can we have an honest conversation about all the people enabling X , not just those making management decisions? If we design an algorithm that will be used to put people in jail by algorithm [1], is that exempt from culpability? What about the engineer that implements it? If they are not responsible, but the code is buggy and the bugs cause real harm, are they now to blame? Where is the line that we should not cross ? [1] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hertz-to-pay-168-million-in-bogus-customers-jail-rental-cars-stolen/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hertz-to-pay-168-million-in-bog...