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I do myself a favor by not doing this, install ohmyzsh and start working. Seeing what other people have done with shell, vim and all sorts of things, I know thi

by d3w4s9 3y ago

I do myself a favor by not doing this, install ohmyzsh and start working. Seeing what other people have done with shell, vim and all sorts of things, I know this is a rabbit hole and I could spend endless time on it. That's why I use ohmyzsh, VSCode and other tools and only tweak settings when necessary. And I can be actually productive even when I get a new machine. Performance? If you are talking about the startup performance, no it doesn't bother me. Again, nothing is slowly enough to cause noticeable delays in basic typing/editing and the bottleneck is almost never on them. (I regularly work on codebase of hundreds to thousands of files or more.) So I don't spend time worrying about saving a few seconds in total per day when I can use my brain elsewhere.

latexr 3y ago
You don’t have to follow a rabbit hole, these tweaks take no time at all and you can stop whenever. I used Oh My Zsh until I got fed up with the startup slowness. I open a bunch of terminal windows during the day and every one of them had a second or two of delay before I could do anything. I decided to do myself a favour and no longer put up with it. It took me a handful of minutes to figure out which plugins I actually cared about (three) and get rid of Oh My Zsh entirely. Everything about this change is better for me: it’s easier and faster to redo the setup when I do a clean install, and it’s instant in everyday use which means it’s no longer frustrating.
- Ingaz 3y ago
  I heard a lot about slowness of oh-my-zsh but never experienced it myself. I had slow starts when I added nvm completion to .zshrc and .. maybe conda environment but that was unrelated to oh-my-zsh
  - wyclif 3y ago
    I've also not experienced any slowness with oh-my-zsh. Now LunarVim, which is an IDE-like layer for Neovim...that's a totally different story.
    - pdimitar 3y ago
      Hmm? What about LunarVim?
      - wyclif 3y ago
        If you add more than a handful of plugins in any of these IDE layers for Neovim, like LunarVim, LazyVim, AstroNvim, &c., it can slow things down to an unacceptable level quickly.
        pdimitar 3y ago
        That really depends. On the iTerm2 terminal? Yes, sometimes. On Alacritty and Rio? Nope, it's very snappy.
        pprotas 3y ago
        No need to rely on your terminal to provide performance. LunarVim is very slow even though I use Alacritty, it was the main reason I stopped using it and switched to LazyVim.
        pdimitar 3y ago
        Some plugins can make it crawl, yes. 'Wansmer/symbol-usage.nvim' is one of them. I found that I didn't really need it as much so disabled it and LunarVim became much snappier.
        wyclif 3y ago
        Yes, should have qualified it a little more by adding that it does depend very much on which plugins are currently loaded.
        wyclif 3y ago
        If I'm being quite honest, I think LazyVim is the more polished project. I may end up switching to that; I've been impressed by what I've seen so far (as well as using the lazy.nvim package manager).
  - latexr 3y ago
    > I heard a lot about slowness of oh-my-zsh but never experienced it myself. This was years ago, no idea how it is today. But I also have no reason to go back. > I had slow starts when I added nvm completion to .zshrc That too, but that’s unrelated. To me that was yet another reason to stop using node altogether, I wasn’t enjoying it anyway.
JoBrad 3y ago
PowerLevel10k has quite a bit of functionality, and is more performant in my experience, giving me the best of both worlds. https://github.com/romkatv/powerlevel10k https://github.com/romkatv/powerlevel10k
- pprotas 3y ago
  While I love p10k and use it myself, note that p10k is just a theme, while ohmyzsh is a theme manager (that comes with default themes) + plugin manager + a collection of aliases + other QoL stuff.
  - trallnag 3y ago
    p10k is not just a theme, it implements a whole prompt to realize features like instant and transient prompt. For example showing your current Kubernetes namespace while you are typing a kubectl command.
- sshine 3y ago
  Having PowerLevel10k shortened as p10k bugs me, because "owerLevel10" is 11 characters.

by d3w4s9 3y ago

latexr 3y ago

You don’t have to follow a rabbit hole, these tweaks take no time at all and you can stop whenever. I used Oh My Zsh until I got fed up with the startup slowness. I open a bunch of terminal windows during the day and every one of them had a second or two of delay before I could do anything. I decided to do myself a favour and no longer put up with it. It took me a handful of minutes to figure out which plugins I actually cared about (three) and get rid of Oh My Zsh entirely. Everything about this change is better for me: it’s easier and faster to redo the setup when I do a clean install, and it’s instant in everyday use which means it’s no longer frustrating.

Ingaz 3y ago
I heard a lot about slowness of oh-my-zsh but never experienced it myself. I had slow starts when I added nvm completion to .zshrc and .. maybe conda environment but that was unrelated to oh-my-zsh
- wyclif 3y ago
  I've also not experienced any slowness with oh-my-zsh. Now LunarVim, which is an IDE-like layer for Neovim...that's a totally different story.
  - pdimitar 3y ago
    Hmm? What about LunarVim?
    - wyclif 3y ago
      If you add more than a handful of plugins in any of these IDE layers for Neovim, like LunarVim, LazyVim, AstroNvim, &c., it can slow things down to an unacceptable level quickly.
      - pdimitar 3y ago
        That really depends. On the iTerm2 terminal? Yes, sometimes. On Alacritty and Rio? Nope, it's very snappy.
        pprotas 3y ago
        No need to rely on your terminal to provide performance. LunarVim is very slow even though I use Alacritty, it was the main reason I stopped using it and switched to LazyVim.
        pdimitar 3y ago
        Some plugins can make it crawl, yes. 'Wansmer/symbol-usage.nvim' is one of them. I found that I didn't really need it as much so disabled it and LunarVim became much snappier.
        wyclif 3y ago
        Yes, should have qualified it a little more by adding that it does depend very much on which plugins are currently loaded.
        wyclif 3y ago
        If I'm being quite honest, I think LazyVim is the more polished project. I may end up switching to that; I've been impressed by what I've seen so far (as well as using the lazy.nvim package manager).
- latexr 3y ago
  > I heard a lot about slowness of oh-my-zsh but never experienced it myself. This was years ago, no idea how it is today. But I also have no reason to go back. > I had slow starts when I added nvm completion to .zshrc That too, but that’s unrelated. To me that was yet another reason to stop using node altogether, I wasn’t enjoying it anyway.

JoBrad 3y ago

PowerLevel10k has quite a bit of functionality, and is more performant in my experience, giving me the best of both worlds. https://github.com/romkatv/powerlevel10k https://github.com/romkatv/powerlevel10k

pprotas 3y ago
While I love p10k and use it myself, note that p10k is just a theme, while ohmyzsh is a theme manager (that comes with default themes) + plugin manager + a collection of aliases + other QoL stuff.
- trallnag 3y ago
  p10k is not just a theme, it implements a whole prompt to realize features like instant and transient prompt. For example showing your current Kubernetes namespace while you are typing a kubectl command.
sshine 3y ago
Having PowerLevel10k shortened as p10k bugs me, because "owerLevel10" is 11 characters.