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Would you care to share for those of us who haven’t written a grant application before?

by ptcrash 3y ago

marcosdumay 3y ago
The writer can not imagine any realistic application for the foreseeable future. But hey, nothing is impossible.
- foobarbecue 3y ago
  ... lots of things are impossible?
  - leoqa 3y ago
    name an impossible thing and a grant writer will propose a solution
    - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
      Could God write a grant proposal so ambitious that He couldn't fund it?
      - Kerb_ 3y ago
        Looking at how churches collect tithes, I wonder if He already has
  - coldtea 3y ago
    Not when fishing for grants.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
epgui 3y ago
It’s the biggest stretch possible without it being technically dishonest. Everyone knows it: the researchers know it and gag a little as they write it, and the grant reviewers know it but pretty much require it without really ever saying that they require it (competitive landscape and all).
- jdksmdbtbdnmsm 3y ago
  it exhibits a capacity to be full of shit with a straight face, which makes grant funders happy so grant reviewers view it as job security
  - epgui 3y ago
    No, it’s not the same thing as “being full of shit”. You took a nuance and you turned it into a carnival. The incentive structures you hint at don’t make sense either.
- fuzzfactor 3y ago
  What else can you say when it gets to subject matter like this? In experimental thermodynamic bench experiments, those who are familiar with boiling water in a common scientific vessel such as a tea kettle, are often familiar with how a system has its own characteristic rate of cooling, depending on the energy of the heated media to dissipate into whatever heat exchange facility is available at the time, usually ambient convection. Under careful observation it can be seen that often it is possible to impart energy from an external source at a faster rate than the same amount of energy will later require to completely dissipate afterward. People shouldn't be discouraged whether this is obvious or not. Experimentation such as this can require quite a bit of dedication, especially among those who are not tea drinkers, but this is the workaround that would be required to arrive at such valid conclusions without the use of equations nor those pesky optical tweezers which are such a pain in the butt.

Would you care to share for those of us who haven’t written a grant application before?

marcosdumay 3y ago

The writer can not imagine any realistic application for the foreseeable future. But hey, nothing is impossible.

foobarbecue 3y ago
... lots of things are impossible?
- leoqa 3y ago
  name an impossible thing and a grant writer will propose a solution
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    Could God write a grant proposal so ambitious that He couldn't fund it?
    - Kerb_ 3y ago
      Looking at how churches collect tithes, I wonder if He already has
- coldtea 3y ago
  Not when fishing for grants.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]

epgui 3y ago

It’s the biggest stretch possible without it being technically dishonest. Everyone knows it: the researchers know it and gag a little as they write it, and the grant reviewers know it but pretty much require it without really ever saying that they require it (competitive landscape and all).

jdksmdbtbdnmsm 3y ago
it exhibits a capacity to be full of shit with a straight face, which makes grant funders happy so grant reviewers view it as job security
- epgui 3y ago
  No, it’s not the same thing as “being full of shit”. You took a nuance and you turned it into a carnival. The incentive structures you hint at don’t make sense either.
fuzzfactor 3y ago
What else can you say when it gets to subject matter like this? In experimental thermodynamic bench experiments, those who are familiar with boiling water in a common scientific vessel such as a tea kettle, are often familiar with how a system has its own characteristic rate of cooling, depending on the energy of the heated media to dissipate into whatever heat exchange facility is available at the time, usually ambient convection. Under careful observation it can be seen that often it is possible to impart energy from an external source at a faster rate than the same amount of energy will later require to completely dissipate afterward. People shouldn't be discouraged whether this is obvious or not. Experimentation such as this can require quite a bit of dedication, especially among those who are not tea drinkers, but this is the workaround that would be required to arrive at such valid conclusions without the use of equations nor those pesky optical tweezers which are such a pain in the butt.