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Do a significant amount of people actually worry about this when booking a flight? The chances of incident, even on these models with recent incidents is still

Do a significant amount of people actually worry about this when booking a flight? The chances of incident, even on these models with recent incidents is still so unbelievably low, no? I guess it's a form of being able to vote with your wallet; forcing the manufacturers to spend additional money/time on QC.

light_hue_1 3y ago
Yes. I do. It's a small risk but one that I can trivially avoid. It takes seconds. Why not? And as you said. Force them to clean their act up.
TheAceOfHearts 3y ago
The risk is low, but voting with your wallet is the only tool available to regular people. If you're unhappy with how Boeing has been handling their business, what other actions are available to you?
- CoastalCoder 3y ago
  In the U.S., organizing to get one's congressman to take action. It's probably a big uphill battle due to industry lobbying, but I expect it's possible if there were enough popular support.
Lio 3y ago
What's the downside for you? If you don't care just ignore it. Having the option, even if rarely used, is a good signal to bean counters that cutting corners on safety or quality or even leg room is unacceptable.
makeitdouble 3y ago
People don't make these choices based on probability, it come down to whether you see as worth your time and money to think about it. That's the same for buying a super sturdy SUV for commuting. Your overall chances of getting into an accident where you'll be crushed between two semi is astronomically low, but many people will still choose that option over just a normally safe car. The question comes down yo how much they'd bare disruption to assert that choice, and it doesn't look to me like a costly or super problematic choice here
PedroBatista 3y ago
Yes, they do but only for a finite amount of time and most will board the plane because realistically they “don’t have any other choice” given their timeframe ( going home for Christmas, attending a meeting in the morning, etc ). However long term they internalize ( rightfully ) Boeing equals bad and danger. If an airline comes up and announces all their fleet is now all brand new Airbus people notice and prefer that, airlines know that and if the numbers are close they’ll run Airbus. However.. aircraft buying and operation is an incredible complex world, history and politics are a huge factor too, safety is not a factor, “risk” is, they overlap but are not really the same. Most of this will go away in a month or two, until the next plane goes down.
mattmaroon 3y ago
I have a pilot friend who told me he wont fly (even as a passenger) on any Max. He flies Boeing 737s. I’m not sure a pilot who has never flown the type is really any better positioned to judge this than anyone else, but I do think that if he feels that way, a whole lot of non-pilots do too. If you know pilots you know they are not a cautious lot generally. While they get a metric shit-ton of caution trained into them, there are a whole lot of cowboys in the flying world.

light_hue_1 3y ago

Yes. I do. It's a small risk but one that I can trivially avoid. It takes seconds. Why not? And as you said. Force them to clean their act up.

TheAceOfHearts 3y ago

The risk is low, but voting with your wallet is the only tool available to regular people. If you're unhappy with how Boeing has been handling their business, what other actions are available to you?

CoastalCoder 3y ago
In the U.S., organizing to get one's congressman to take action. It's probably a big uphill battle due to industry lobbying, but I expect it's possible if there were enough popular support.

Lio 3y ago

What's the downside for you? If you don't care just ignore it. Having the option, even if rarely used, is a good signal to bean counters that cutting corners on safety or quality or even leg room is unacceptable.

makeitdouble 3y ago

People don't make these choices based on probability, it come down to whether you see as worth your time and money to think about it. That's the same for buying a super sturdy SUV for commuting. Your overall chances of getting into an accident where you'll be crushed between two semi is astronomically low, but many people will still choose that option over just a normally safe car. The question comes down yo how much they'd bare disruption to assert that choice, and it doesn't look to me like a costly or super problematic choice here

PedroBatista 3y ago

Yes, they do but only for a finite amount of time and most will board the plane because realistically they “don’t have any other choice” given their timeframe ( going home for Christmas, attending a meeting in the morning, etc ). However long term they internalize ( rightfully ) Boeing equals bad and danger. If an airline comes up and announces all their fleet is now all brand new Airbus people notice and prefer that, airlines know that and if the numbers are close they’ll run Airbus. However.. aircraft buying and operation is an incredible complex world, history and politics are a huge factor too, safety is not a factor, “risk” is, they overlap but are not really the same. Most of this will go away in a month or two, until the next plane goes down.

mattmaroon 3y ago

I have a pilot friend who told me he wont fly (even as a passenger) on any Max. He flies Boeing 737s. I’m not sure a pilot who has never flown the type is really any better positioned to judge this than anyone else, but I do think that if he feels that way, a whole lot of non-pilots do too. If you know pilots you know they are not a cautious lot generally. While they get a metric shit-ton of caution trained into them, there are a whole lot of cowboys in the flying world.