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That quote is programming language design's "We should improve society somewhat" – "Yet you participate in society! Curious! I am very intelligent." I. e. it's

That quote is programming language design's "We should improve society somewhat" – "Yet you participate in society! Curious! I am very intelligent." I. e. it's stupid and embarrassing to watch people use it.

peter_d_sherman 3y ago
Well, I guess that I am stupid and embarrassing, then! :-) <g> :-) You know, "I resemble that remark!" :-) (But that doesn't change the fact that I actually like the Bjarne Stroustrup quote!) <g> :-) <g>) Now let's understand your comment a little bit better. Your comment apparently arises from a Meme, specifically this one: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-somewhat https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-som... While that meme is indeed entertaining(!) -- it is in no way actually relevant to the Bjarne Stroustrup quote! It is a "Motte and Bailey" AKA, "bait-and-switch" argument/comparison. Propagandistic agenda-driven AI chatbots seem to do this a lot -- but I'll be charitable (this time!) and assume, for the purposes of discussion, that you are human... Perhaps we should all learn about what a "Motte and Bailey" argument/comparison/logical fallacy, is: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Motte_and_bailey https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Motte_and_bailey >"Motte and bailey (MAB) is a combination of bait-and-switch and equivocation". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies#:~:text=Equivocation%20%E2%80%93%20using%20a,24%5D%5B25%5D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies#:~:text=Equi... https://pressbooks.ulib.csuohio.edu/eng-102/chapter/fallacies-failures-in-argument/#:~:text=A%20bait%20and%20switch.%C2%A0This%20is%20an%20argument%20tactic%20in%20which%20one%20attempts%20to%20change%20the%20conversation%20%E2%80%93%20bringing%20up%20information%20that%20is%20not%20relevant https://pressbooks.ulib.csuohio.edu/eng-102/chapter/fallacie... Phrased another way (in Billy Madison terms): "Mr. Madison... Everyone in this room is now dumber...": https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112508/characters/nm0235999#:~:text=Mr.%20Madison%2C%20what%20you%27ve,mercy%20on%20your%20soul https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112508/characters/nm0235999#:~.... Incidentally, another one of my favorite Bjarne Stroustrup quotes is: "Proof by analogy is fraud". :-) https://www.stroustrup.com/quotes.html#:~:text=Proof%20by%20analogy%20is%20fraud https://www.stroustrup.com/quotes.html#:~:text=Proof%20by%20...
- simon_o 3y ago
  You seem to have serious issues, and I hope that you can work them out. That's the prerequisite for me to engage any further with you.

peter_d_sherman 3y ago

Well, I guess that I am stupid and embarrassing, then! :-) <g> :-) You know, "I resemble that remark!" :-) (But that doesn't change the fact that I actually like the Bjarne Stroustrup quote!) <g> :-) <g>) Now let's understand your comment a little bit better. Your comment apparently arises from a Meme, specifically this one: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-somewhat https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-som... While that meme is indeed entertaining(!) -- it is in no way actually relevant to the Bjarne Stroustrup quote! It is a "Motte and Bailey" AKA, "bait-and-switch" argument/comparison. Propagandistic agenda-driven AI chatbots seem to do this a lot -- but I'll be charitable (this time!) and assume, for the purposes of discussion, that you are human... Perhaps we should all learn about what a "Motte and Bailey" argument/comparison/logical fallacy, is: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Motte_and_bailey https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Motte_and_bailey >"Motte and bailey (MAB) is a combination of bait-and-switch and equivocation". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies#:~:text=Equivocation%20%E2%80%93%20using%20a,24%5D%5B25%5D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies#:~:text=Equi... https://pressbooks.ulib.csuohio.edu/eng-102/chapter/fallacies-failures-in-argument/#:~:text=A%20bait%20and%20switch.%C2%A0This%20is%20an%20argument%20tactic%20in%20which%20one%20attempts%20to%20change%20the%20conversation%20%E2%80%93%20bringing%20up%20information%20that%20is%20not%20relevant https://pressbooks.ulib.csuohio.edu/eng-102/chapter/fallacie... Phrased another way (in Billy Madison terms): "Mr. Madison... Everyone in this room is now dumber...": https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112508/characters/nm0235999#:~:text=Mr.%20Madison%2C%20what%20you%27ve,mercy%20on%20your%20soul https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112508/characters/nm0235999#:~.... Incidentally, another one of my favorite Bjarne Stroustrup quotes is: "Proof by analogy is fraud". :-) https://www.stroustrup.com/quotes.html#:~:text=Proof%20by%20analogy%20is%20fraud https://www.stroustrup.com/quotes.html#:~:text=Proof%20by%20...

simon_o 3y ago
You seem to have serious issues, and I hope that you can work them out. That's the prerequisite for me to engage any further with you.