There is a proverb in Turkish that means “One madman (ein Chinese) threw a stone into a well, forty wise men couldn't get it out.” This discussion is a bit like

There is a proverb in Turkish that means “One madman (ein Chinese) threw a stone into a well, forty wise men couldn't get it out.” This discussion is a bit like that. Turkish proverb: "Bir deli bir kuyuya taş atmış, kırk akıllı çıkaramamış."