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> Targeted for interventions Someone needs to brush up on their ho3_m4th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4aMiAesXjE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4aMiAesX

> Targeted for interventions Someone needs to brush up on their ho3_m4th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4aMiAesXjE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4aMiAesXjE

picadores 3y ago
Well, they are the remnants of a society, were you could still trade in your works worth for "love" or at least a "dont break the chain" genetic future in the shape of a "family". And now this contract is up, they want to burn the whole thing down.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  > now this contract is up The paper’s point is it’s an imagined contract. Being a somewhat-attractive, middlingly-wealthy man child was never a path to reproduction.
  - sparrowInHand 3y ago
    It was for the whole history of small-town, shop-owner, working sunup to sundown, what have manchilds todo with that?
    - geraldhh 3y ago
      this. what has changed is the percentage of ppl living in big metropolitan regions where competition is higher and interactions plentiful and hence shallow making it more difficult to bond.
    - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > was for the whole history of small-town, shop-owner, working sunup to sundown, what have manchilds todo with that? Small-town shop owner working sunup to sundown isn't a manchild, they're a hard-working professional. To my impression, this doesn't describe incels. Take their personality a few centuries back and you have the decent-looking but insufferable child whose parents can't merely be somewhat wealthy to overcome his misgivings. Part of the problem is "the 1960s," a cultural waypoint for America, "were an exceptional period with respect to marriage behavior" [1]. In fact, between 1870 and 1960, we were at much higher fractions of the 45 to 54 age bracket of men who had never been married. Selection pressure was higher a century ago, not lower. [1] https://users.pop.umn.edu/~ruggl001/Articles/Fitch_and_Ruggles.pdf https://users.pop.umn.edu/~ruggl001/Articles/Fitch_and_Ruggl...
  - pydry 3y ago
    It definitely was. Try reading some Jane Austen.
    - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > It definitely was. Try reading some Jane Austen Jane Austen's men were rich bachelors, often coming to the country from London, often written as charming for being open to women of a lower (upper class) standing. They were the opposite of incels.
      - pydry 3y ago
        >Jane Austen's men were rich bachelors, often coming to the country from London, often written as charming Yes and often not rich and often not charming. One of the key points of her writing was to contrast these characters in a context where women had very high stakes (not marrying did not end well for most women, including her) and limited options.
  - the_only_law 3y ago
    Unfortunately, this site is testament to the opposite.

> Targeted for interventions Someone needs to brush up on their ho3_m4th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4aMiAesXjE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4aMiAesXjE

picadores 3y ago

Well, they are the remnants of a society, were you could still trade in your works worth for "love" or at least a "dont break the chain" genetic future in the shape of a "family". And now this contract is up, they want to burn the whole thing down.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> now this contract is up The paper’s point is it’s an imagined contract. Being a somewhat-attractive, middlingly-wealthy man child was never a path to reproduction.
- sparrowInHand 3y ago
  It was for the whole history of small-town, shop-owner, working sunup to sundown, what have manchilds todo with that?
  - geraldhh 3y ago
    this. what has changed is the percentage of ppl living in big metropolitan regions where competition is higher and interactions plentiful and hence shallow making it more difficult to bond.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > was for the whole history of small-town, shop-owner, working sunup to sundown, what have manchilds todo with that? Small-town shop owner working sunup to sundown isn't a manchild, they're a hard-working professional. To my impression, this doesn't describe incels. Take their personality a few centuries back and you have the decent-looking but insufferable child whose parents can't merely be somewhat wealthy to overcome his misgivings. Part of the problem is "the 1960s," a cultural waypoint for America, "were an exceptional period with respect to marriage behavior" [1]. In fact, between 1870 and 1960, we were at much higher fractions of the 45 to 54 age bracket of men who had never been married. Selection pressure was higher a century ago, not lower. [1] https://users.pop.umn.edu/~ruggl001/Articles/Fitch_and_Ruggles.pdf https://users.pop.umn.edu/~ruggl001/Articles/Fitch_and_Ruggl...
- pydry 3y ago
  It definitely was. Try reading some Jane Austen.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > It definitely was. Try reading some Jane Austen Jane Austen's men were rich bachelors, often coming to the country from London, often written as charming for being open to women of a lower (upper class) standing. They were the opposite of incels.
    - pydry 3y ago
      >Jane Austen's men were rich bachelors, often coming to the country from London, often written as charming Yes and often not rich and often not charming. One of the key points of her writing was to contrast these characters in a context where women had very high stakes (not marrying did not end well for most women, including her) and limited options.
- the_only_law 3y ago
  Unfortunately, this site is testament to the opposite.