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I'm looking at it from the perspective of my parents. For them it is a major feature of the iPhone that you can download any app with complete impunity. No nee

by bb123 3y ago

I'm looking at it from the perspective of my parents. For them it is a major feature of the iPhone that you can download any app with complete impunity. No need for $150/year antivirus (for those big scary viruses windows used to get absolutely riddled with). No need to worry it's going to change your default search engine or start mining bitcoin. You know when you download something from the App Store it has been through some level of vetting. I'm not sure why so many people here are wilfully blind to this use case. Also, the reason I specifically bring up WhatsApp is that we know Facebook will take ridiculous liberties given the chance - remember Onavo?

lnxg33k1 3y ago
The thing is that apple app store is also filled with scammy apps, so the argument is flawed at the start, you can’t outsource your security and act on the internet like youre blind and doesn’t affect you, you need to be attentive
- rvz 3y ago
  > The thing is that apple app store is also filled with scammy apps, so the argument is flawed at the start So you think to improve the security is to make the problem even worse by having more installable unchecked ransomware on the iPhone. Really can’t wait for the flood of sideloaded malware and ransomware that made Android phones the insecure toxic hellstew that it still is today; on the iPhone. /s
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    I can't wait either. I've got a number of sideloaded apps on my Android phone (Netguard, KeePassDX, even a Hacker News client to name a few) and have no viruses to speak of. Closest thing to malware I can notice is the OEM software.
eviks 3y ago
But you're not as ignorant add your patents, so why repeat the obviously false FUD? No, there is no such thing as "complete immunity", what it the basis for worrying that Safari's default search can be easily changed by an app from a different store? How are viruses in the past(!) on Windows(!) relevant? You're not describing an honest "use case", so there is nothing to be willfully blind about

by bb123 3y ago

lnxg33k1 3y ago

The thing is that apple app store is also filled with scammy apps, so the argument is flawed at the start, you can’t outsource your security and act on the internet like youre blind and doesn’t affect you, you need to be attentive

rvz 3y ago
> The thing is that apple app store is also filled with scammy apps, so the argument is flawed at the start So you think to improve the security is to make the problem even worse by having more installable unchecked ransomware on the iPhone. Really can’t wait for the flood of sideloaded malware and ransomware that made Android phones the insecure toxic hellstew that it still is today; on the iPhone. /s
- smoldesu 3y ago
  I can't wait either. I've got a number of sideloaded apps on my Android phone (Netguard, KeePassDX, even a Hacker News client to name a few) and have no viruses to speak of. Closest thing to malware I can notice is the OEM software.

eviks 3y ago

But you're not as ignorant add your patents, so why repeat the obviously false FUD? No, there is no such thing as "complete immunity", what it the basis for worrying that Safari's default search can be easily changed by an app from a different store? How are viruses in the past(!) on Windows(!) relevant? You're not describing an honest "use case", so there is nothing to be willfully blind about