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The secret is: there is a lot of subsidized housing, and the article primarily talks about said subsidized housing. The cost of non subsidized housing is in li

by Rescis 3y ago

The secret is: there is a lot of subsidized housing, and the article primarily talks about said subsidized housing. The cost of non subsidized housing is in line with Hamburg.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>The secret is: there is a lot of subsidized housing Becasue that's what the Vienese people voted for and keep voting for since 1945. So even if you also want to vote yourselves subsidized housing in your city right now, unless you can turn back time to change your city's policies, it's unlikely your own city will be able to buy up over half the private properties in town now, turn them into social housing and then rent them out to you at discount prices today. It will be financial and politicla suicide to do that in today's market anywhere on the planet. It's also how Vienna is the only city in Austria with so much subsidized housing, with the rest of the country relying on private ownership and private rent, nor can the rest be like Vienna today even if they wished due to the issue mentioned above. >The cost of non subsidized housing is in line with Hamburg With lower wages than Hamburg and higher consumer prices.
- vr46 3y ago
  And Hamburg has terrible salaries, too, if the €2500/month take home I was offered for a senior engineer role by one of Germany’s biggest companies is anything to go by.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    That's a European wide problem. Most great software opportunities are still clustered around the handfull of tehc hubs where big-tech, FANGS and VC funded companies have their offices: London, Dublin, Amsterdam, Berlin, Stockholm. Anmywhere outside of that and opportunities take a nose dive.
    - vr46 3y ago
      Hmm, maybe - did you see the PDF reports from swissdevjobs/germantechjobs a few weeks ago? Zurich, Zug, Bern and Geneva were out there as around double the numbers of anywhere in Germany. I know Switz isn't cheap to live in, but still. Honestly I wish I was still back in London.
jseliger 3y ago
The actual secret is building a lot of housing: https://www.slowboring.com/p/what-can-we-really-learn-about-housing https://www.slowboring.com/p/what-can-we-really-learn-about-.... Vienna is also small and stagnant.
derelicta 3y ago
More than subsidized housing; State and non-for-profit housing.

by Rescis 3y ago

The secret is: there is a lot of subsidized housing, and the article primarily talks about said subsidized housing. The cost of non subsidized housing is in line with Hamburg.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

>The secret is: there is a lot of subsidized housing Becasue that's what the Vienese people voted for and keep voting for since 1945. So even if you also want to vote yourselves subsidized housing in your city right now, unless you can turn back time to change your city's policies, it's unlikely your own city will be able to buy up over half the private properties in town now, turn them into social housing and then rent them out to you at discount prices today. It will be financial and politicla suicide to do that in today's market anywhere on the planet. It's also how Vienna is the only city in Austria with so much subsidized housing, with the rest of the country relying on private ownership and private rent, nor can the rest be like Vienna today even if they wished due to the issue mentioned above. >The cost of non subsidized housing is in line with Hamburg With lower wages than Hamburg and higher consumer prices.

vr46 3y ago
And Hamburg has terrible salaries, too, if the €2500/month take home I was offered for a senior engineer role by one of Germany’s biggest companies is anything to go by.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  That's a European wide problem. Most great software opportunities are still clustered around the handfull of tehc hubs where big-tech, FANGS and VC funded companies have their offices: London, Dublin, Amsterdam, Berlin, Stockholm. Anmywhere outside of that and opportunities take a nose dive.
  - vr46 3y ago
    Hmm, maybe - did you see the PDF reports from swissdevjobs/germantechjobs a few weeks ago? Zurich, Zug, Bern and Geneva were out there as around double the numbers of anywhere in Germany. I know Switz isn't cheap to live in, but still. Honestly I wish I was still back in London.

jseliger 3y ago

The actual secret is building a lot of housing: https://www.slowboring.com/p/what-can-we-really-learn-about-housing https://www.slowboring.com/p/what-can-we-really-learn-about-.... Vienna is also small and stagnant.

derelicta 3y ago

More than subsidized housing; State and non-for-profit housing.