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Ok, so there are now 2 tiers where they don't use our data to train the model? The higher bandwidth is to clearly entice new customers, but the question remain

Ok, so there are now 2 tiers where they don't use our data to train the model? The higher bandwidth is to clearly entice new customers, but the question remains, what happens to the old ChatGPT Plus users? Do their quotas get eaten up by these new teams?

yawnxyz 3y ago
Looks like the $20/month PLUS plan DOES use your data to train the model now... (they seem to have removed that "feature" from the list in the side-by-side comparison)
- Metricon 3y ago
  Currently, if you disable chat history, you'll see this message: Chat History is off for this browser. When history is turned off, new chats on this browser won't appear in your history on any of your devices, be used to train our models, or stored for longer than 30 days. This setting does not sync across browsers or devices.
  - abid786 3y ago
    It's absolutely insane to trust that they won't do this.
    - tempestn 3y ago
      No it's not. If they explicitly say they won't train on your data and then they do, it's going to come out in discovery of one of the lawsuits they're fighting, and the consequences would be significant. Plus there's little incentive for them to lie about it, given most people leave history on.
      - coconut08 3y ago
        yeah because no large tech company has ever lied to their customers about how their data is being handled. oh wait there are lawsuits surrounding this sort of thing all the time.
        tempestn 3y ago
        I wouldn't trust them with nuclear secrets, but to say it's "insane" to trust that they're going to do what they explicitly say they're going to do just isn't logical.
  - knosh 3y ago
    https://privacy.openai.com/policies https://privacy.openai.com/policies They hide this link a bit. They completed my opt-out request in about ten minutes and at least claim to be not using any of my data going forward for training. I didn't lose any features like Chat History
- tempestn 3y ago
  There used to be a form you could submit asking them not to train on your data. Absent some communication to the contrary I would hope that continues to be respected.
- obmelvin 3y ago
  AFAIK, Plus has always trained on your conversation data. Enterprise and the API do not.
castles 3y ago
It's not super obvious, but even with Plus you can opt-out of training. Aside: If you can see other colleagues' interactions with the custom/private GPTs, it could be quite an efficient way to share knowledge, especially for people in disparate time zones.
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reaperman 3y ago
> what happens to the old ChatGPT Plus users? Do their quotas get eaten up by these new teams? This is probably run on Microsoft servers (Azure, basically), not OpenAI servers, so it shouldn't directly compete for capacity. This is more of a "the pie got bigger" situation.

yawnxyz 3y ago

Looks like the $20/month PLUS plan DOES use your data to train the model now... (they seem to have removed that "feature" from the list in the side-by-side comparison)

Metricon 3y ago
Currently, if you disable chat history, you'll see this message: Chat History is off for this browser. When history is turned off, new chats on this browser won't appear in your history on any of your devices, be used to train our models, or stored for longer than 30 days. This setting does not sync across browsers or devices.
- abid786 3y ago
  It's absolutely insane to trust that they won't do this.
  - tempestn 3y ago
    No it's not. If they explicitly say they won't train on your data and then they do, it's going to come out in discovery of one of the lawsuits they're fighting, and the consequences would be significant. Plus there's little incentive for them to lie about it, given most people leave history on.
    - coconut08 3y ago
      yeah because no large tech company has ever lied to their customers about how their data is being handled. oh wait there are lawsuits surrounding this sort of thing all the time.
      - tempestn 3y ago
        I wouldn't trust them with nuclear secrets, but to say it's "insane" to trust that they're going to do what they explicitly say they're going to do just isn't logical.
- knosh 3y ago
  https://privacy.openai.com/policies https://privacy.openai.com/policies They hide this link a bit. They completed my opt-out request in about ten minutes and at least claim to be not using any of my data going forward for training. I didn't lose any features like Chat History
tempestn 3y ago
There used to be a form you could submit asking them not to train on your data. Absent some communication to the contrary I would hope that continues to be respected.
obmelvin 3y ago
AFAIK, Plus has always trained on your conversation data. Enterprise and the API do not.

castles 3y ago

It's not super obvious, but even with Plus you can opt-out of training. Aside: If you can see other colleagues' interactions with the custom/private GPTs, it could be quite an efficient way to share knowledge, especially for people in disparate time zones.

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reaperman 3y ago

> what happens to the old ChatGPT Plus users? Do their quotas get eaten up by these new teams? This is probably run on Microsoft servers (Azure, basically), not OpenAI servers, so it shouldn't directly compete for capacity. This is more of a "the pie got bigger" situation.