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Actually: should be available everywhere except France right now. (Selling encryption apps to France apparently requires an "export compliance approval" from th

by mtigas 14y ago

Actually: should be available everywhere except France right now. (Selling encryption apps to France apparently requires an "export compliance approval" from the French government, and I haven’t gone through that process yet — primarily because I don't speak French.) Let me know if that's not the case and I’ll double-check my settings in iTunes Connect.

d4sh 14y ago
Well, it seems I should have said "not available in France", sorry for the mix up, I only checked French and US stores.
- mtigas 14y ago
  No need to be sorry — a good reminder that I should mention that somewhere since it’s a strange quirk of legality that affects literally one App Store country. Thanks!
zalew 14y ago
> Selling encryption apps to France apparently requires an "export compliance approval" from the French government they require a backdoor?
- Wilya 14y ago
  The gist of the law ([0]) is that, unless you only use crypto techniques for authentication and checksumming, you have to document the process and provide the source code to be able to import it. That's... interesting. I'm French and I had never really heard of that law applied. [0] http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=LEGITEXT000005789847&dateTexte=#LEGIARTI000006421577 http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=LEGITE... (in French, obviously)
  - zalew 14y ago
    interesting. so, they basically require it to be open-(to them)-source?
    - Wilya 14y ago
      I think so. I am neither a lawyer nor a cryptographer, though, so I might be missing something.
    - aresando 14y ago
      They require the source code to be given to the government, yes, among other things. @mtigas @wilya the process (and forms) is detailed there: http://www.ssi.gouv.fr/fr/reglementation-ssi/cryptologie/constituer-un-dossier-d-autorisation-ou-de-declaration.html http://www.ssi.gouv.fr/fr/reglementation-ssi/cryptologie/con... (in French, obviously) Happy to give a hand if needed.
jarek-foksa 14y ago
Check this thread on Apple developer forums, there is a link to translation of French export forms: https://devforums.apple.com/thread/109830 https://devforums.apple.com/thread/109830 According to the FAQ on iTunes Connect you need French export forms only if the app contains: - any encryption algorithm that is yet to be standardized by international standard bodies such as IEEE, IETF, ISO, ITU, ETSI, 3GPP, TIA, etc. or not otherwise published; or - standard (e.g., AES, DES, 3DES, RSA) encryption algorithm(s) instead of or in addition to accessing or using the encryption in Apple OS

by mtigas 14y ago

d4sh 14y ago

Well, it seems I should have said "not available in France", sorry for the mix up, I only checked French and US stores.

mtigas 14y ago
No need to be sorry — a good reminder that I should mention that somewhere since it’s a strange quirk of legality that affects literally one App Store country. Thanks!

zalew 14y ago

> Selling encryption apps to France apparently requires an "export compliance approval" from the French government they require a backdoor?

Wilya 14y ago
The gist of the law ([0]) is that, unless you only use crypto techniques for authentication and checksumming, you have to document the process and provide the source code to be able to import it. That's... interesting. I'm French and I had never really heard of that law applied. [0] http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=LEGITEXT000005789847&dateTexte=#LEGIARTI000006421577 http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=LEGITE... (in French, obviously)
- zalew 14y ago
  interesting. so, they basically require it to be open-(to them)-source?
  - Wilya 14y ago
    I think so. I am neither a lawyer nor a cryptographer, though, so I might be missing something.
  - aresando 14y ago
    They require the source code to be given to the government, yes, among other things. @mtigas @wilya the process (and forms) is detailed there: http://www.ssi.gouv.fr/fr/reglementation-ssi/cryptologie/constituer-un-dossier-d-autorisation-ou-de-declaration.html http://www.ssi.gouv.fr/fr/reglementation-ssi/cryptologie/con... (in French, obviously) Happy to give a hand if needed.

jarek-foksa 14y ago

Check this thread on Apple developer forums, there is a link to translation of French export forms: https://devforums.apple.com/thread/109830 https://devforums.apple.com/thread/109830 According to the FAQ on iTunes Connect you need French export forms only if the app contains: - any encryption algorithm that is yet to be standardized by international standard bodies such as IEEE, IETF, ISO, ITU, ETSI, 3GPP, TIA, etc. or not otherwise published; or - standard (e.g., AES, DES, 3DES, RSA) encryption algorithm(s) instead of or in addition to accessing or using the encryption in Apple OS