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The other negative signal is all their talk of doing "massive" things. Did fb ever talk this way? Not to my knowledge ... they just DID things. Lot's of hype /

The other negative signal is all their talk of doing "massive" things. Did fb ever talk this way? Not to my knowledge ... they just DID things. Lot's of hype / cockiness on this one.

2pasc 14y ago
Totally agree. Everybody forgets that neither Facebook, nor Google, eBay, LinkedIn, Youtube, were saying they were doing massive things. And yet...
- priley 14y ago
  Why do you guys think that? I received this email in 2004 from TheFacebook.com founders encouraging me to join their team. " - Thefacebook.com is one of the hottest new websites. - Our numbers are some of the best on the Internet: 1.5-2 billion page views per month, 2.3 million registered users, and 60%+ of the user base comes back every day " If you are starting your own company, you should be 120% sure you are building something huge that people want. It's also much harder now to attract engineers then it was back then, which is essentially the main reason you even talk about a round.
  - 2pasc 14y ago
    Thanks for participating in the discussion. I completely understand what you are talking about regarding attracting engineers. It's so crazy currently in Silicon Valley! I am not saying that you should not be ambitious. It's just that I see so many people boasting huge vision with no traction at all. As you can see in the email above, TheFacebook was indeed a hot website with amazing traction. Their ambition (social graph, platform, etc...) came later, and so many times entrepreneurs think that they need to have the big vision first when their MVP is not used at all. In the case of Ark, I believe that you have a very interesting product, and that being where you are right now is a very interesting position. I wish you all the success in the world to bring that to fruition and be able to get the traction you need to go to the next level. Good luck! I would love to have coffee with you and hear more about it if you are in the city!
  - 2pasc 14y ago
    BTW - did you join their team?
34code 14y ago
Ark has indexed 1 billion+ profiles and more coming in the pipeline. I do not know of any other search engine that has accomplished that yet. Yet, I get what you mean... I guess Ark will eventually adopt a "keep calm and ship" attitude as it matures.. Its still a very young company (about 20 people).
priley 14y ago
I'm sorry you think we are overly ambitious. Zuck was very demonstratively inspired and confident (see below), and we are all better off that we was.

The other negative signal is all their talk of doing "massive" things. Did fb ever talk this way? Not to my knowledge ... they just DID things. Lot's of hype / cockiness on this one.

2pasc 14y ago

Totally agree. Everybody forgets that neither Facebook, nor Google, eBay, LinkedIn, Youtube, were saying they were doing massive things. And yet...

priley 14y ago
Why do you guys think that? I received this email in 2004 from TheFacebook.com founders encouraging me to join their team. " - Thefacebook.com is one of the hottest new websites. - Our numbers are some of the best on the Internet: 1.5-2 billion page views per month, 2.3 million registered users, and 60%+ of the user base comes back every day " If you are starting your own company, you should be 120% sure you are building something huge that people want. It's also much harder now to attract engineers then it was back then, which is essentially the main reason you even talk about a round.
- 2pasc 14y ago
  Thanks for participating in the discussion. I completely understand what you are talking about regarding attracting engineers. It's so crazy currently in Silicon Valley! I am not saying that you should not be ambitious. It's just that I see so many people boasting huge vision with no traction at all. As you can see in the email above, TheFacebook was indeed a hot website with amazing traction. Their ambition (social graph, platform, etc...) came later, and so many times entrepreneurs think that they need to have the big vision first when their MVP is not used at all. In the case of Ark, I believe that you have a very interesting product, and that being where you are right now is a very interesting position. I wish you all the success in the world to bring that to fruition and be able to get the traction you need to go to the next level. Good luck! I would love to have coffee with you and hear more about it if you are in the city!
- 2pasc 14y ago
  BTW - did you join their team?

34code 14y ago

Ark has indexed 1 billion+ profiles and more coming in the pipeline. I do not know of any other search engine that has accomplished that yet. Yet, I get what you mean... I guess Ark will eventually adopt a "keep calm and ship" attitude as it matures.. Its still a very young company (about 20 people).

priley 14y ago

I'm sorry you think we are overly ambitious. Zuck was very demonstratively inspired and confident (see below), and we are all better off that we was.