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Before clicking I presumed this would be a compilation of blogposts about the Wim Hof method[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wim_Hof https://en.wikipedia.

Before clicking I presumed this would be a compilation of blogposts about the Wim Hof method[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wim_Hof https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wim_Hof

pphysch 3y ago
Interesting, looks like he's supposed to go on trial this month for wrongful death related to his Method. Let's stick to bickering about Formal Verification and Static Typing and leave that cold shower stuff to the pros...
- danielvaughn 3y ago
  Ironically, the wim hof method itself could also go on the hype/shower list.
  - chihuahua 3y ago
    But his method of almost killing himself via an enema in a fountain jet in a public park stands the test of time.
m463 3y ago
> Swimming under ice > Hof's first attempt the day before failed when he began his swim without goggles and his corneas froze solid and blinded him. A rescue diver pulled him to the surface after he passed out. this probably has code analogies too...
manmal 3y ago
For anyone wanting to try this, I‘d just warn that many extremes that humans haven’t evolved to endure (sitting for long periods, spending no time in sunlight, spending too much time in sunlight, eating no fat, eating too much fat, etc) have been shown repeatedly to shorten lifespan. I’d see daily ice baths as an unnatural extreme and wouldn’t consider doing this, at least not for a long period of time.
- amelius 3y ago
  Survivor bias. "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger."
  - Cthulhu_ 3y ago
    I suspect this is the case for a lot of the recent influx of "do this to live longer" posts on here. I mean there's centenarians who didn't do any of these and still got old. Daily alcohol intake, no sports, that kinda thing.
    - namaria 3y ago
      It's almost as if complex systems resist deterministic patterns of thinking. If only someone decades ago had written a book warning us about seeking 'silver bullets' in software development...
- infinite_salt 3y ago
  Humans weren't optimized to endure the unnatural extreme heat of a 175 degree sauna, yet studies point to frequent sauna use being associated with a reduction in all-cause mortality
  - theLiminator 3y ago
    > yet studies point to frequent sauna use being associated with a reduction in all-cause mortality Is this perhaps because frequent sauna access is correlated with higher socioeconomic status/less stress/more free time/etc. What kind of confounding factors did they include in that study?
    - jabits 3y ago
      I don't think so. Saunas are economically available to almost everyone (where there is fuel). I grew up a yooper in Upper Michigan and saunas are a very common part of the culture and even folks without indoor plumbing (much less common now) would have wood-burning saunas in the back yard. Saunas are one of the most relaxing, and invigorating, experiences I know of.

Before clicking I presumed this would be a compilation of blogposts about the Wim Hof method[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wim_Hof https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wim_Hof

pphysch 3y ago

Interesting, looks like he's supposed to go on trial this month for wrongful death related to his Method. Let's stick to bickering about Formal Verification and Static Typing and leave that cold shower stuff to the pros...

danielvaughn 3y ago
Ironically, the wim hof method itself could also go on the hype/shower list.
- chihuahua 3y ago
  But his method of almost killing himself via an enema in a fountain jet in a public park stands the test of time.

m463 3y ago

> Swimming under ice > Hof's first attempt the day before failed when he began his swim without goggles and his corneas froze solid and blinded him. A rescue diver pulled him to the surface after he passed out. this probably has code analogies too...

manmal 3y ago

For anyone wanting to try this, I‘d just warn that many extremes that humans haven’t evolved to endure (sitting for long periods, spending no time in sunlight, spending too much time in sunlight, eating no fat, eating too much fat, etc) have been shown repeatedly to shorten lifespan. I’d see daily ice baths as an unnatural extreme and wouldn’t consider doing this, at least not for a long period of time.

amelius 3y ago
Survivor bias. "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger."
- Cthulhu_ 3y ago
  I suspect this is the case for a lot of the recent influx of "do this to live longer" posts on here. I mean there's centenarians who didn't do any of these and still got old. Daily alcohol intake, no sports, that kinda thing.
  - namaria 3y ago
    It's almost as if complex systems resist deterministic patterns of thinking. If only someone decades ago had written a book warning us about seeking 'silver bullets' in software development...
infinite_salt 3y ago
Humans weren't optimized to endure the unnatural extreme heat of a 175 degree sauna, yet studies point to frequent sauna use being associated with a reduction in all-cause mortality
- theLiminator 3y ago
  > yet studies point to frequent sauna use being associated with a reduction in all-cause mortality Is this perhaps because frequent sauna access is correlated with higher socioeconomic status/less stress/more free time/etc. What kind of confounding factors did they include in that study?
  - jabits 3y ago
    I don't think so. Saunas are economically available to almost everyone (where there is fuel). I grew up a yooper in Upper Michigan and saunas are a very common part of the culture and even folks without indoor plumbing (much less common now) would have wood-burning saunas in the back yard. Saunas are one of the most relaxing, and invigorating, experiences I know of.