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Unhinged, wild speculation. A teaser: evil corporations will make your AI girlfriends suggest that you buy Monster energy drinks. Embarrassing that HN apparen

Unhinged, wild speculation. A teaser: evil corporations will make your AI girlfriends suggest that you buy Monster energy drinks. Embarrassing that HN apparently has such a large tinfoil hat contingent.

aatd86 3y ago
No need. Can just excite one of your brain regions while you watch an ad...
xorcist 3y ago
That quote is taken out of context and does not represent the contents of the talk. It's all very speculative, and ties together CIA conspiracies with the history of AI, but if you're into that sort of thing it's thought provoking.
jmprspret 3y ago
How this idea far fetched or unhinged? Genuinely asking, because it seems very plausible to me.
cooljoseph 3y ago
Instead of saying "wild speculation" and using a lot of charged words, it would be more helpful if you explained why you think it is wrong. This just comes across as you trying to denounce the other side as low status and looks bad--though you're probably right.
- mhh__ 3y ago
  80% of the information comes from the tone of voice.
datadrivenangel 3y ago
It'll be Pepsi, but yeah.
ramblenode 3y ago
> A teaser: evil corporations will make your AI girlfriends suggest that you buy Monster energy drinks. Like the other commenters, I'm surprised you think this is far-fetched. Just skim through the list of actual advertising campaigns mastermined by the father of public relations, Edward Bernays, to see how deep this field goes [0]. This guy intended (and succeeded) in changing American women's perception of the color green in order to sell more Lucky Strike cigarettes that came in green packaging. An entire government was overthrown in order to sell more bananas. Targeted advertising is small potatoes. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays
- jabroni_salad 3y ago
  The original collectable trading cards were printed in a stiffening board used in cigarette packaging. Very popular with children!
- exo-pla-net 3y ago
  Why wouldn't our AI girlfriends suggest that we avoid sugary drinks, to keep the American workforce healthy, a la CCP public efforts? Or why wouldn't our AI girlfriends tell us exactly what they deem each of us want to hear? It seems like the AI girlfriend LLM that mirrors our preferences best would be the most appealing to the average Joe. One can think up a zillion scenarios, some of them terrifying, some of them prosaic, some of them positive. To assert that a scary scenario is the most probable, without strong evidence, is fearmongering.
  - ramblenode 3y ago
    > Why wouldn't our AI girlfriends suggest that we avoid sugary drinks, to keep the American workforce healthy, a la CCP public efforts? Because most products you use come from people trying to make money. > Or why wouldn't our AI girlfriends tell us exactly what they deem each of us want to hear? It seems like the AI girlfriend LLM that mirrors our preferences best would be the most appealing to the average Joe. I'm sure they will... until it's more profitable to show a Monster ad. See the VC product cycle a la Netflix, Facebook, Google search, etc. > To assert that a scary scenario is the most probable, without strong evidence, is fearmongering. It's not the scary scenario. It's the status quo and it's the standard curriculum in bussiness schools all over the country.
speg 3y ago
How is this wild speculation? I just tried MS Copilot app, and after the very first question it inserted some ads relevant to the question. We know product placement has been a round for decades. I am flabbergasted that you think it’s wild speculation it would appear in the next round of tech.

aatd86 3y ago

No need. Can just excite one of your brain regions while you watch an ad...

xorcist 3y ago

That quote is taken out of context and does not represent the contents of the talk. It's all very speculative, and ties together CIA conspiracies with the history of AI, but if you're into that sort of thing it's thought provoking.

jmprspret 3y ago

How this idea far fetched or unhinged? Genuinely asking, because it seems very plausible to me.

cooljoseph 3y ago

Instead of saying "wild speculation" and using a lot of charged words, it would be more helpful if you explained why you think it is wrong. This just comes across as you trying to denounce the other side as low status and looks bad--though you're probably right.

mhh__ 3y ago
80% of the information comes from the tone of voice.

datadrivenangel 3y ago

It'll be Pepsi, but yeah.

ramblenode 3y ago

> A teaser: evil corporations will make your AI girlfriends suggest that you buy Monster energy drinks. Like the other commenters, I'm surprised you think this is far-fetched. Just skim through the list of actual advertising campaigns mastermined by the father of public relations, Edward Bernays, to see how deep this field goes [0]. This guy intended (and succeeded) in changing American women's perception of the color green in order to sell more Lucky Strike cigarettes that came in green packaging. An entire government was overthrown in order to sell more bananas. Targeted advertising is small potatoes. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

jabroni_salad 3y ago
The original collectable trading cards were printed in a stiffening board used in cigarette packaging. Very popular with children!
exo-pla-net 3y ago
Why wouldn't our AI girlfriends suggest that we avoid sugary drinks, to keep the American workforce healthy, a la CCP public efforts? Or why wouldn't our AI girlfriends tell us exactly what they deem each of us want to hear? It seems like the AI girlfriend LLM that mirrors our preferences best would be the most appealing to the average Joe. One can think up a zillion scenarios, some of them terrifying, some of them prosaic, some of them positive. To assert that a scary scenario is the most probable, without strong evidence, is fearmongering.
- ramblenode 3y ago
  > Why wouldn't our AI girlfriends suggest that we avoid sugary drinks, to keep the American workforce healthy, a la CCP public efforts? Because most products you use come from people trying to make money. > Or why wouldn't our AI girlfriends tell us exactly what they deem each of us want to hear? It seems like the AI girlfriend LLM that mirrors our preferences best would be the most appealing to the average Joe. I'm sure they will... until it's more profitable to show a Monster ad. See the VC product cycle a la Netflix, Facebook, Google search, etc. > To assert that a scary scenario is the most probable, without strong evidence, is fearmongering. It's not the scary scenario. It's the status quo and it's the standard curriculum in bussiness schools all over the country.

speg 3y ago

How is this wild speculation? I just tried MS Copilot app, and after the very first question it inserted some ads relevant to the question. We know product placement has been a round for decades. I am flabbergasted that you think it’s wild speculation it would appear in the next round of tech.