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Full stop, only native car software I’ve ever thought wasn’t trash is Tesla. Toyota does get second place with CarPlay support.

jm4 3y ago
Tesla is the only one I’ve ever had that occasionally crashes, but it’s still so much better than the other stuff out there. I have had decent experiences with Toyota and Ford. Although their systems are boring and old, they work reliably and consistently.
- explaininjs 3y ago
  My 2004 Toyota has the most reliable and intuitive phone integration I've seen, far better than the Tesla "everything is one screen so you need to look down and click through menus to find the toggle you want", and the CarPlay "Oh you're in a car? Let's give you a giant screen way below the normal eye level to distract you, then purposefully disable a ton of arbitrary features to make it more "safe", even if it means you take way longer with your eyes off the road to work around all the limitations they impose." I have a magnetic phone charger suctioned to the windshield, and I installed a bluetooth integration into the stock head unit. The phone UI is the exact one I use day to day, I don't ever have to take my eyes off the road, and all the normal car functionality is physical buttons and switches whose positions I've memorized.
- panopticon 3y ago
  Coincidentally the infotainment system in my new F150 has crashed more than my partner’s Tesla. But I really hate the lack of buttons in the Tesla. It feels so incredibly unsafe to have to look at the screen to turn heated seats on. And I think I like CarPlay more than Tesla’s infotainment setup these days.
  - dzhiurgis 3y ago
    > It feels so incredibly unsafe to have to look at the screen to turn heated seats on. You can always wait until a stop at intersection or highways while on autopilot or use auto or use voice command. People use touchscreens all the time to scroll media, yet climate controls are somehow sacred.

jm4 3y ago

Tesla is the only one I’ve ever had that occasionally crashes, but it’s still so much better than the other stuff out there. I have had decent experiences with Toyota and Ford. Although their systems are boring and old, they work reliably and consistently.

explaininjs 3y ago
My 2004 Toyota has the most reliable and intuitive phone integration I've seen, far better than the Tesla "everything is one screen so you need to look down and click through menus to find the toggle you want", and the CarPlay "Oh you're in a car? Let's give you a giant screen way below the normal eye level to distract you, then purposefully disable a ton of arbitrary features to make it more "safe", even if it means you take way longer with your eyes off the road to work around all the limitations they impose." I have a magnetic phone charger suctioned to the windshield, and I installed a bluetooth integration into the stock head unit. The phone UI is the exact one I use day to day, I don't ever have to take my eyes off the road, and all the normal car functionality is physical buttons and switches whose positions I've memorized.
panopticon 3y ago
Coincidentally the infotainment system in my new F150 has crashed more than my partner’s Tesla. But I really hate the lack of buttons in the Tesla. It feels so incredibly unsafe to have to look at the screen to turn heated seats on. And I think I like CarPlay more than Tesla’s infotainment setup these days.
- dzhiurgis 3y ago
  > It feels so incredibly unsafe to have to look at the screen to turn heated seats on. You can always wait until a stop at intersection or highways while on autopilot or use auto or use voice command. People use touchscreens all the time to scroll media, yet climate controls are somehow sacred.