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It's tough when you dogmatically refuse to use lidar! For Elmo, since the human eye doesn't have lidar, camera arrays are sufficient to achieve L3
by treypitt 3y ago
It's tough when you dogmatically refuse to use lidar! For Elmo, since the human eye doesn't have lidar, camera arrays are sufficient to achieve L3
- internet101010 3y agoSemi-related but how do lidar-based systems handle nearby cars that have lidar jammers installed?
- L-four 3y agoSemi-related how do lidar-based systems handle nearby cars with RPG launchers installed?
- egeozcan 3y agoThis is the rare moment where a random channel in YouTube beats Simpsons to speculate on one absurd scenario: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7YVxLLIuGM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7YVxLLIuGM It's not exactly what you describe but it comes close.
- decafninja 3y agoYou need to buy a monthly subscription to the Premium CIWS package.
- kevin_thibedeau 3y agoTo be activated when the Mr Fusion is ready.
- CaptainOfCoit 3y agoUnrelated, but why would a car have a lidar jammer installed?
- nixgeek 3y agoI think the reference is to ALP systems which are used to defeat law enforcement speed guns? Not sure if those operate on the same frequencies as the DrivePilot LiDAR. It seems unlikely they do otherwise LE would have difficulty prosecuting speeders in these new vehicles?
- CaptainOfCoit 3y agoAha, thanks! And here I was, thinking that speed guns were just doing basic radar stuff, but I guess speed guns have evolved like everything else.
- lynndotpy 3y agoI can't speak to any production systems, but the ideal is to use a "sensor fusion" approach which can safely degrade or alert the driver when a sensor is lost. Lidar, cameras, wireless communication with other vehicles and infrastructure, and with the internal sensors in the car. More concerning would be adversarially-crafted signals. (Think a Wil-E-Coyote style fake-tunnel, but for lidar and and whatnot too.)
- asylteltine 3y agoI would bet still better than how teslas fail to recognize cyclists or motorcycles still, even in 2023 And most systems use an array of sensors like radar, laser, and vision too. It’s only musk who is hell bent on lying to his customers about machine vision and also lying about his intentions where the goal is cost savings and not because machine vision is better.
- edgyquant 3y ago[flagged]
- 1920musicman 3y agoI know almost nothing about cars and so assumed LiDAR sensors are just prohibitively expensive for Tesla to install in every car. But then years later I learned that every modern iPhone has a LiDAR camera. Still don't know how to think about this - how is it possible for a phone to have LiDAR (barely utilized) but it's too expensive to have them in such a critical setup as an autonomous vehicle.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago> how is it possible for a phone to have LiDAR Just like you can have a 50MP camera sensor in the phone: it works? Sure. Is it sufficient to capture the Moon (heh) or something 50-100 meters from you? Not at the quality and performance of professional equipment. Sure, you can have a matrix of iPhone LIDARs but whould they works at sufficient speed, accuracy, at +40C, at -35?
- manquer 3y agoWhy should they need to in a L3 system ? All L3 systems only operate under known easier conditions. The self driving could turn off in unfavorable conditions . My car’s lane centering switches off if there is rain or snow obstructing sensor .
- rad_gruchalski 3y ago> But then years later I learned that every modern iPhone has a LiDAR camera. The iPhone lidar has a range of 5 meters.