I am not a Rolex owner or even a fan. If you meant Seikos high end products you should have said those, no one calls Grand Seikos just Seiko since they are ver

I am not a Rolex owner or even a fan. If you meant Seikos high end products you should have said those, no one calls Grand Seikos just Seiko since they are very different. With that in mind I don't think we disagree very much here.