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> America has not filled that with anything else That's not an issue that America has to solve (i.e. the government or the society). It's an individual need th
by hifreq 3y ago
> America has not filled that with anything else
That's not an issue that America has to solve (i.e. the government or the society). It's an individual need that every individual is responsible for.
- anon291 3y agoOn the contrary, it's completely an issue that society needs to solve, even if the government does not. Part of a civilization is providing a culture.
- BizarreByte 3y ago> It's an individual need that every individual is responsible for. You shouldn't be surprised then when vast amounts of people fail to fill a hole that for the vast majority of human history was filled for them. I honestly believe most people simply aren't capable of making their on meaning or purpose out of nothing.
- hifreq 3y agoI am not surprised by that in the slightest, and I agree that most people struggle with that, myself included. It is THE struggle of our lives. Being told as a child that if you take drugs you will go to hell is not a meaningful alternative. Not for incredibly complex thinking beings that we are. Submitting to Jesus, being a part of the "right" religious group is not a benefit to the human race as a whole. It's poison, promoted by power hungry maniacs.
- vasco 3y agoThe individuals are killing themselves with drugs, hence the discussion.
- hifreq 3y agoI get that. I disagree with the idea that to stop that we need Jesus.
- jasonfarnon 3y agoDoes America have to solve it if America destroyed it?
- hifreq 3y agoOur maturing world (not just the US) is starting to recognize that religion is BS. We can't go back to relying on religion for keeping our bad instincts at bay. The influence of religion is and has been low in many European countries for decades, which did not result in an increase in homelessness we are seeing in the US. Social programs, education, keeping corporations in check - these are meaningful alternatives to the idea that we need to bring Jesus back to control the population.
- matrix87 3y agoI'm pretty sure they anticipated this attitude in Revelation 3:15 Indifference is worse than extreme atheism or fundamentalism because those two options are actually concerned about others The indifferent person could care less whether you believe or don't, it's your own "individual responsibility", they owe nothing to you and you owe nothing to them Widespread indifference will bring about the slow dismantlement of society
- hifreq 3y agoI mean, they anticipated the effect of eating shellfish and allowing women to speak up in Whatever X:YY, is this going to end the world as we know it as well? Finding purpose and our place in the world is our individual responsibility. Don't confuse it with the lies of eternal heaven at the cost of total submission in this life that your religion is promoting.
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- matrix87 3y agoIt isn't a "price" that you pay for some reward down the line, or at least that's a pretty shallow way of approaching it, and assuming that is kind of reductive
- justworkout 3y agoEast Asia and parts of Europe have quite a few people who are entirely apathetic towards religion. Drug addicts aren't out and open in those regions. I've really only witnessed such open drug abuse in countries with strong Christian influence, e.g. the US and Latin America. Might be worth investigating why widespread debilitating drug abuse stems from that background.