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Not sure I agree. While about USB3 and even USBC it might be true, but I have a MacBook Pro 2011 (2.4Ghz Core i5), that I put a 256Gb SSD in and upgraded to 8GB

Not sure I agree. While about USB3 and even USBC it might be true, but I have a MacBook Pro 2011 (2.4Ghz Core i5), that I put a 256Gb SSD in and upgraded to 8GB of RAM. It is certainly as or more powerful than the Lenovo N5030 with 8GB of RAM I picked up new this year running Windows 11. Those older i5s age very nice. With the Open Core Legacy Patcher -- it runs Ventura very well, btw.

worthless-trash 3y ago
Which I5 you got in your macbook pro ? Which I5 do you think the lenovo ships ? Which DDR do you think is used in the lenovo ? I'm not saying the apple laptops are bad, but the amount of apple hallucination in this site is bordering on insane.
- swagempire 3y ago
  Not really. I'm sure any 10 year old i5 based system would perform similarly. The point is more about how slow Intel processors still are really.
  - worthless-trash 3y ago
    Desktop 2013 i5 - Core i5-3340 (choosing this to put your arguement at an advantage Mobile 2013 i5 - Core i5-13600T (choosing this as its mobile, with the same approximate price point). https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5175vs2071/Intel-i5-13600T-vs-Intel-i5-3340 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5175vs2071/Intel-i5-136... While not the most informative of benchmarks, you'll find that 10 year old i5's really are quite a bit slower, especially when attempting to power more modern hardware (SSD, more powerful GPU) due to the both the slower ram, thinner busses and crappier cache. Intels branding is -so good- that people have blurred all their i5 experiences together. > The point is more about how slow Intel processors still are really. The i3/i5 is not their flagship CPU, Its middle market tech, The 'middle market' gets something which is 'just enough to keep them happy'. Most of these systems run a browser and office, so as long as that works, people are happy. When you want performance from intel you buy their higher end i9's and Xeons,

worthless-trash 3y ago

Which I5 you got in your macbook pro ? Which I5 do you think the lenovo ships ? Which DDR do you think is used in the lenovo ? I'm not saying the apple laptops are bad, but the amount of apple hallucination in this site is bordering on insane.

swagempire 3y ago
Not really. I'm sure any 10 year old i5 based system would perform similarly. The point is more about how slow Intel processors still are really.
- worthless-trash 3y ago
  Desktop 2013 i5 - Core i5-3340 (choosing this to put your arguement at an advantage Mobile 2013 i5 - Core i5-13600T (choosing this as its mobile, with the same approximate price point). https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5175vs2071/Intel-i5-13600T-vs-Intel-i5-3340 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5175vs2071/Intel-i5-136... While not the most informative of benchmarks, you'll find that 10 year old i5's really are quite a bit slower, especially when attempting to power more modern hardware (SSD, more powerful GPU) due to the both the slower ram, thinner busses and crappier cache. Intels branding is -so good- that people have blurred all their i5 experiences together. > The point is more about how slow Intel processors still are really. The i3/i5 is not their flagship CPU, Its middle market tech, The 'middle market' gets something which is 'just enough to keep them happy'. Most of these systems run a browser and office, so as long as that works, people are happy. When you want performance from intel you buy their higher end i9's and Xeons,