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It's not that hard to get around this. I kept my TV offline and plugged in an Apple TV immediately.

hedora 3y ago
Some TVs constantly display nag screens or blink the power LED at you if you keep them offline. I can't decide if it's better to check for such things before purchase, or just return it as defective if I end up getting a model that does this.
- radicality 3y ago
  I also use an AppleTV with my Samsung TV. I did give the tv WiFi credentials so that sometimes if needed it can reach the internet (eg firwmare download), but I set up firewall rules to block all traffic for the tv in steady state.
  - stavros 3y ago
    Trust me, you don't want your TV to download firmware. My Sony TV started freezing every so often after downloading some random update. Since then, it's gone off wifi and only the Chromecast is allowed to connect.
- myself248 3y ago
  Absolutely return as defective. Make it sting a little. If it doesn't say on the box "requires constant internet to function" in big bold letters, it should.
  - eru 3y ago
    What about saying in big bold letters 'requires constant electricity to function'? That would be a ridiculous requirement, because people expect that TVs need electricity. But the producer can argue that people these days also expect TVs to need the internet, can't they?
    - myself248 3y ago
      They sure as fuck cannot, I've never connected a single TV to the internet. That's something that needs to be explicitly declared.
      - eru 3y ago
        That would be a for a judge to decide.
        myself248 3y ago
        They're going to take me to court for returning a TV?
        eru 3y ago
        They might refuse to accept your return, and you might have to enlist the help of the legal system, if you want to force them to accept it. Of course, details depend on your jurisdiction and on the retailer / manufacturer and what warranties they give you (or are forced to give you), etc.
- eru 3y ago
  > [...] blink the power LED [...] You can fix that with a piece of tap or blu-tack.
- nunez 3y ago
  This is why i bought a Sony. They have a ton of features packed in but won't scream if you don't ever connect them.

Some TVs constantly display nag screens or blink the power LED at you if you keep them offline. I can't decide if it's better to check for such things before purchase, or just return it as defective if I end up getting a model that does this.

radicality 3y ago
I also use an AppleTV with my Samsung TV. I did give the tv WiFi credentials so that sometimes if needed it can reach the internet (eg firwmare download), but I set up firewall rules to block all traffic for the tv in steady state.
- stavros 3y ago
  Trust me, you don't want your TV to download firmware. My Sony TV started freezing every so often after downloading some random update. Since then, it's gone off wifi and only the Chromecast is allowed to connect.
myself248 3y ago
Absolutely return as defective. Make it sting a little. If it doesn't say on the box "requires constant internet to function" in big bold letters, it should.
- eru 3y ago
  What about saying in big bold letters 'requires constant electricity to function'? That would be a ridiculous requirement, because people expect that TVs need electricity. But the producer can argue that people these days also expect TVs to need the internet, can't they?
  - myself248 3y ago
    They sure as fuck cannot, I've never connected a single TV to the internet. That's something that needs to be explicitly declared.
    - eru 3y ago
      That would be a for a judge to decide.
      - myself248 3y ago
        They're going to take me to court for returning a TV?
        eru 3y ago
        They might refuse to accept your return, and you might have to enlist the help of the legal system, if you want to force them to accept it. Of course, details depend on your jurisdiction and on the retailer / manufacturer and what warranties they give you (or are forced to give you), etc.
eru 3y ago
> [...] blink the power LED [...] You can fix that with a piece of tap or blu-tack.
nunez 3y ago
This is why i bought a Sony. They have a ton of features packed in but won't scream if you don't ever connect them.