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So all (addictive or not) prescription drugs for instance should also be available to everyone freely and without any limitations? Also unnecessary/avoidable d

So all (addictive or not) prescription drugs for instance should also be available to everyone freely and without any limitations? Also unnecessary/avoidable deaths are only an issue if they are an outcome of violence or government restrictions if I understand correctly?

Nextgrid 3y ago
> all (addictive or not) prescription drugs for instance should also be available to everyone freely and without any limitations Technically we already have that with cigarettes and alcohol, so maybe it's time to drop the double-standards?
- tester756 3y ago
  Cigarettes are really harmful, but still not as hard as drugs.
  - Ckirby 3y ago
    Uninformed Prohibitionist nonsense
    - tester756 3y ago
      How so?
  - Woshiwuja 3y ago
    that is literally not true lol. No other drug gives you cancer in various area of your body. No other drug makes you more of it in less than an hour, except maybe heroin. And heroin should never be tried.
    - tester756 3y ago
      >that is literally not true lol. No other drug gives you cancer in various area of your body. Uh, how many years of smoking or after how many years the cancer appears on average? 10? 20? 30? Other drugs like cocaine/heroin will destroy your life way, way faster than that.
    - DontchaKnowit 3y ago
      Yeah sounds like youve no idea what youre talking about. First off heroin last longer than an hour. Second, many drugs make you want more within an hour (cocaine, benzos, sometimes amphetamines, alcohol) and many drugs can can increase your cancer risk because many of them do damage to your organ tissue cause they are caustic.
      - Woshiwuja 3y ago
        if you want to do coke and benzos more than once an hour sounds like you got a big problem
        DontchaKnowit 3y ago
        sounds like you've never done coke or benzos
        Woshiwuja 3y ago
        I literally grew up in crackhouses.
        DontchaKnowit 3y ago
        well idk what to tell ya then. People do coke and benzos until theres no more coke and benzos and the frequency just depends on how much you can handle, or in the case of benzos, how quick it takes you to forget your last dose.
Ckirby 3y ago
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- tester756 3y ago
  >Stop crying about "addiction" rofl, yea, addiction aint huge issue, huh?
  - Ckirby 3y ago
    No, it isn't
    - mptest 3y ago
      Even if you don't think it's a large issue morally or whatever, the money we spend policing them, the drugs they do, and the immense wealth of black market dealers should all show you it is a major problem, even if only a financially ridiculous decision for any state to make. Waste money impotently pretending to police drugs instead of generating tax revenue selling them. It's absolutely brain dead how we operate.
mptest 3y ago
Freely? Without any limitations? Of course not man. 25+ for hard drugs, daily limits, mandate taxes go to facilities for treatment and rehabilitation. Take the hundreds of billions from the global black market for drugs and the tens of billions we spend impotently pretending to stop drug dealers with idiotic agencies like the DEA and all of the sudden we turn a GIGANTIC minus in our budget in to a GIGANTIC increase in funding.
- qwytw 3y ago
  > 25+ for hard drugs, daily limits, So we can start with prescription drugs I assume? Unlimited access to OxyContin for everyone 25+. It's much safer than any illegally consumed opioids after all so what could go wrong? Oh wait.. > GIGANTIC increase in funding. That's a silly claim unless you tax them to such an extent that black marker drugs become more competitive.
  - mptest 3y ago
    >>daily limits >unlimited access to oxycontin Did you even read what you quoted? Who said Unlimited?
    - qwytw 3y ago
      You did. Daily limits is a silly idea that's trivial to workaround (effectively users will just end up paying markup on anything above the 'daily limit').
  - mptest 3y ago
    >That's a silly claim unless you tax them to such an extent that black marker drugs become more competitive. Not at all. First off, all the money we spend on the dea and other drug enforcement could be instantly recouped. Billions for those d.a.r.e clowns ALONE. Plus, I'd wager to say cost of legal production would be a lot lower than illegal production + illicit shipment to end users. That leaves plenty of room to make a decent buck on taxes. But yeah a big portion of money would come from all the idiotic shit we no longer would have to do with drugs legal.

Nextgrid 3y ago

> all (addictive or not) prescription drugs for instance should also be available to everyone freely and without any limitations Technically we already have that with cigarettes and alcohol, so maybe it's time to drop the double-standards?

tester756 3y ago
Cigarettes are really harmful, but still not as hard as drugs.
- Ckirby 3y ago
  Uninformed Prohibitionist nonsense
  - tester756 3y ago
    How so?
- Woshiwuja 3y ago
  that is literally not true lol. No other drug gives you cancer in various area of your body. No other drug makes you more of it in less than an hour, except maybe heroin. And heroin should never be tried.
  - tester756 3y ago
    >that is literally not true lol. No other drug gives you cancer in various area of your body. Uh, how many years of smoking or after how many years the cancer appears on average? 10? 20? 30? Other drugs like cocaine/heroin will destroy your life way, way faster than that.
  - DontchaKnowit 3y ago
    Yeah sounds like youve no idea what youre talking about. First off heroin last longer than an hour. Second, many drugs make you want more within an hour (cocaine, benzos, sometimes amphetamines, alcohol) and many drugs can can increase your cancer risk because many of them do damage to your organ tissue cause they are caustic.
    - Woshiwuja 3y ago
      if you want to do coke and benzos more than once an hour sounds like you got a big problem
      - DontchaKnowit 3y ago
        sounds like you've never done coke or benzos
        Woshiwuja 3y ago
        I literally grew up in crackhouses.
        DontchaKnowit 3y ago
        well idk what to tell ya then. People do coke and benzos until theres no more coke and benzos and the frequency just depends on how much you can handle, or in the case of benzos, how quick it takes you to forget your last dose.

Ckirby 3y ago

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tester756 3y ago
>Stop crying about "addiction" rofl, yea, addiction aint huge issue, huh?
- Ckirby 3y ago
  No, it isn't
  - mptest 3y ago
    Even if you don't think it's a large issue morally or whatever, the money we spend policing them, the drugs they do, and the immense wealth of black market dealers should all show you it is a major problem, even if only a financially ridiculous decision for any state to make. Waste money impotently pretending to police drugs instead of generating tax revenue selling them. It's absolutely brain dead how we operate.

mptest 3y ago

Freely? Without any limitations? Of course not man. 25+ for hard drugs, daily limits, mandate taxes go to facilities for treatment and rehabilitation. Take the hundreds of billions from the global black market for drugs and the tens of billions we spend impotently pretending to stop drug dealers with idiotic agencies like the DEA and all of the sudden we turn a GIGANTIC minus in our budget in to a GIGANTIC increase in funding.

qwytw 3y ago
> 25+ for hard drugs, daily limits, So we can start with prescription drugs I assume? Unlimited access to OxyContin for everyone 25+. It's much safer than any illegally consumed opioids after all so what could go wrong? Oh wait.. > GIGANTIC increase in funding. That's a silly claim unless you tax them to such an extent that black marker drugs become more competitive.
- mptest 3y ago
  >>daily limits >unlimited access to oxycontin Did you even read what you quoted? Who said Unlimited?
  - qwytw 3y ago
    You did. Daily limits is a silly idea that's trivial to workaround (effectively users will just end up paying markup on anything above the 'daily limit').
- mptest 3y ago
  >That's a silly claim unless you tax them to such an extent that black marker drugs become more competitive. Not at all. First off, all the money we spend on the dea and other drug enforcement could be instantly recouped. Billions for those d.a.r.e clowns ALONE. Plus, I'd wager to say cost of legal production would be a lot lower than illegal production + illicit shipment to end users. That leaves plenty of room to make a decent buck on taxes. But yeah a big portion of money would come from all the idiotic shit we no longer would have to do with drugs legal.