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This is new to me, so I might be wrong, but I don't get why they share revenue with the creators of these GPTs. They are basically just prompts that consist of

This is new to me, so I might be wrong, but I don't get why they share revenue with the creators of these GPTs. They are basically just prompts that consist of a few sentences. There's no value add, and the more ChatGPT improves the less prompting will be required. These GPTs feel closer to bookmarks than an actual program.

knodi123 3y ago
For a counterexample, see Cauldron in the above repo. It looks like a lot of work and refinement went into that.
manojlds 3y ago
GPTs have: 1. Custom prompts 2. Knowledge 3. Actions You are talking about only 1) here.
rahimnathwani 3y ago
Not all GPTs are just prompts. You can create GPTs that include uploaded content or code. A GPT I created for my own use invokes a Python function to do something GPT-4 cannot do itself. Other GPTs include knowledge bases.
- sucralose 3y ago
  Can you share your use case with the Python function?
  - rahimnathwani 3y ago
    The first line of my prompt is: Create a diagram in mermaid syntax based on what the user asked. Pass the code to the create_mermaid_link function below to get a link to Mermaid Live. Display the clickable link to the user. The prompt has more detail that tells it what types of diagrams to prefer, what types of escaping to use, how to order lines etc. The file I uploaded contains the create_mermaid_link() function, which relies on being able to base64 encode a string.
drexlspivey 3y ago
> They are basically just prompts that consist of a few sentences. There's no value add, and the more ChatGPT improves the less prompting will be required. These GPTs feel closer to bookmarks than an actual program. So basically every ChatGPT wrapper startup
- joshspankit 3y ago
  Exactly why the existential panic those startups experienced when this was announced
fassssst 3y ago
GPTs are apps. They are a prompt, files (up to 10 files, 200 MB each, automatically indexed into a vector DB) a Linux VM that can run code based on prompts or code you attach, can call any web API—-I made a gmail one for myself—and have access to GPT-4V, DALL-E, and Bing Search. You can mash all that up in really creative ways, then press one button to publish and get a link you can share. The VM can easily do things like image and audio processing, ffmpeg, generate Office docs, etc. You don’t have to run a server or pay any operating costs for them, just the $20/month ChatGPT Plus subscription.
- 4death4 3y ago
  What does your integration with gmail do?
- gsharma 3y ago
  What does your “Gmail” GPT do and what do you use it for?
  - fassssst 3y ago
    I haven’t done much with it yet but it’s fun to play with. So far one thing that was nice is “look up the tracking number for the thing I just bought” I’ll probably play around with Bard’s gmail integration to find more use cases.
    - ShamelessC 3y ago
      Is that the sort of thing they would actually let you publish? Seems like inexperienced users might wind up really screwing up their inbox.
      - fassssst 3y ago
        OpenAI would probably let you publish it (they have no review process today) but Google probably wouldn’t. I don’t care though because I’m making these for myself.
GauntletWizard 3y ago
There's a huge opportunity here for a rugpull - Give people a small revenue-share to do your market research for you, swoop in with your own app and better tuned model when you figure out what applications are possible.
abhibeckert 3y ago
That's like arguing there's "no value" in a business that sells pizza. I mean, anyone can just make their own pizza. Where's the value in someone else doing it for you?
TaylorAlexander 3y ago
These people are able to find customers that OpenAI might not have found and bring that revenue to OpenAI. Looking at the ads I see for these products on twitter, I suspect the average user of these products is so non-technical as to be unaware that they could just use ChatGPT.
janalsncm 3y ago
Whether something is worth paying money for isn’t just about how technically difficult it is. Time is money. If it takes me a day to figure out how to configure a thing, that’s time I could’ve spent on something else. As for why OpenAI would pay people to create them, it’s simple: expand the ecosystem.
solumunus 3y ago
> there’s no value add That’s for the customer to decide. They increase overall revenue, that’s why revenue is being shared.

knodi123 3y ago

For a counterexample, see Cauldron in the above repo. It looks like a lot of work and refinement went into that.

manojlds 3y ago

GPTs have: 1. Custom prompts 2. Knowledge 3. Actions You are talking about only 1) here.

rahimnathwani 3y ago

Not all GPTs are just prompts. You can create GPTs that include uploaded content or code. A GPT I created for my own use invokes a Python function to do something GPT-4 cannot do itself. Other GPTs include knowledge bases.

sucralose 3y ago
Can you share your use case with the Python function?
- rahimnathwani 3y ago
  The first line of my prompt is: Create a diagram in mermaid syntax based on what the user asked. Pass the code to the create_mermaid_link function below to get a link to Mermaid Live. Display the clickable link to the user. The prompt has more detail that tells it what types of diagrams to prefer, what types of escaping to use, how to order lines etc. The file I uploaded contains the create_mermaid_link() function, which relies on being able to base64 encode a string.

drexlspivey 3y ago

> They are basically just prompts that consist of a few sentences. There's no value add, and the more ChatGPT improves the less prompting will be required. These GPTs feel closer to bookmarks than an actual program. So basically every ChatGPT wrapper startup

joshspankit 3y ago
Exactly why the existential panic those startups experienced when this was announced

fassssst 3y ago

GPTs are apps. They are a prompt, files (up to 10 files, 200 MB each, automatically indexed into a vector DB) a Linux VM that can run code based on prompts or code you attach, can call any web API—-I made a gmail one for myself—and have access to GPT-4V, DALL-E, and Bing Search. You can mash all that up in really creative ways, then press one button to publish and get a link you can share. The VM can easily do things like image and audio processing, ffmpeg, generate Office docs, etc. You don’t have to run a server or pay any operating costs for them, just the $20/month ChatGPT Plus subscription.

4death4 3y ago
What does your integration with gmail do?
gsharma 3y ago
What does your “Gmail” GPT do and what do you use it for?
- fassssst 3y ago
  I haven’t done much with it yet but it’s fun to play with. So far one thing that was nice is “look up the tracking number for the thing I just bought” I’ll probably play around with Bard’s gmail integration to find more use cases.
  - ShamelessC 3y ago
    Is that the sort of thing they would actually let you publish? Seems like inexperienced users might wind up really screwing up their inbox.
    - fassssst 3y ago
      OpenAI would probably let you publish it (they have no review process today) but Google probably wouldn’t. I don’t care though because I’m making these for myself.

GauntletWizard 3y ago

There's a huge opportunity here for a rugpull - Give people a small revenue-share to do your market research for you, swoop in with your own app and better tuned model when you figure out what applications are possible.

abhibeckert 3y ago

That's like arguing there's "no value" in a business that sells pizza. I mean, anyone can just make their own pizza. Where's the value in someone else doing it for you?

TaylorAlexander 3y ago

These people are able to find customers that OpenAI might not have found and bring that revenue to OpenAI. Looking at the ads I see for these products on twitter, I suspect the average user of these products is so non-technical as to be unaware that they could just use ChatGPT.

janalsncm 3y ago

Whether something is worth paying money for isn’t just about how technically difficult it is. Time is money. If it takes me a day to figure out how to configure a thing, that’s time I could’ve spent on something else. As for why OpenAI would pay people to create them, it’s simple: expand the ecosystem.

solumunus 3y ago

> there’s no value add That’s for the customer to decide. They increase overall revenue, that’s why revenue is being shared.