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We decommissioned all our mobile apps built with Xamarin. Some of the Microsoft teams don't listen to user feedback. We use Azure DevOps, feedback from years

We decommissioned all our mobile apps built with Xamarin. Some of the Microsoft teams don't listen to user feedback. We use Azure DevOps, feedback from years ago for basic features still not developed. https://developercommunity.visualstudio.com/AzureDevOps https://developercommunity.visualstudio.com/AzureDevOps

hhh 3y ago
MS running two major code repo platforms, one that is hated, and one that’s widely loved, leads me to believe ADO is not going to make it.
- my123 3y ago
  Azure DevOps gets wide internal use at least: Windows source code is hosted on it.
ratg13 3y ago
I’ve talked with people at MS that have told me Azure DevOps is no longer in active development. You should start your migration to GitHub actions.
- LikesPwsh 3y ago
  MS don't seem entirely on the same page there. Azure Devops was their first choice for Power BI integration for some reason. https://ideas.fabric.microsoft.com/ideas/idea/?ideaid=02007825-a60e-ee11-a81c-000d3a0ec312 https://ideas.fabric.microsoft.com/ideas/idea/?ideaid=020078...
  - ratg13 3y ago
    Correct, I've only heard this from two people and this is only their take. This is not an official position. But the fact that people within the company are saying this to me directly is enough to get me to believe it. I wouldn't trust a random person on the internet saying stuff like this either, but even without any inside knowledge, it's just logical that they should try and limit time spent developing two of the exact same product .. and I think it's probably becoming apparent to you as well which one is on the chopping block.
    - Ecstatify 3y ago
      We would have migrated to GitHub, unfortunately it doesn't have the equivalent backlog management that's in Azure DevOps.
      - ratg13 3y ago
        From what I understand the goal at the moment is to get GitHub closer to feature parity with ADO before they start to deprecate it .. so hopefully it's coming. And obviously, grain of salt, third-hand knowledge, etc.
WirelessGigabit 3y ago
Seems like that team moved to GitHub actions. How old is it? And we still don't have YAML anchors. Which is just a parser feature.
adamgordonbell 3y ago
My thinking is that you should extract as much logic as possible into some neutral format that you can run on any CI platform. Bash, Docker + Makefile, Earthly, python scripts... whatever keeps as much logic out of a proprietary vendor specific format. Then you can switch easier, if need be.

hhh 3y ago

MS running two major code repo platforms, one that is hated, and one that’s widely loved, leads me to believe ADO is not going to make it.

my123 3y ago
Azure DevOps gets wide internal use at least: Windows source code is hosted on it.

ratg13 3y ago

I’ve talked with people at MS that have told me Azure DevOps is no longer in active development. You should start your migration to GitHub actions.

LikesPwsh 3y ago
MS don't seem entirely on the same page there. Azure Devops was their first choice for Power BI integration for some reason. https://ideas.fabric.microsoft.com/ideas/idea/?ideaid=02007825-a60e-ee11-a81c-000d3a0ec312 https://ideas.fabric.microsoft.com/ideas/idea/?ideaid=020078...
- ratg13 3y ago
  Correct, I've only heard this from two people and this is only their take. This is not an official position. But the fact that people within the company are saying this to me directly is enough to get me to believe it. I wouldn't trust a random person on the internet saying stuff like this either, but even without any inside knowledge, it's just logical that they should try and limit time spent developing two of the exact same product .. and I think it's probably becoming apparent to you as well which one is on the chopping block.
  - Ecstatify 3y ago
    We would have migrated to GitHub, unfortunately it doesn't have the equivalent backlog management that's in Azure DevOps.
    - ratg13 3y ago
      From what I understand the goal at the moment is to get GitHub closer to feature parity with ADO before they start to deprecate it .. so hopefully it's coming. And obviously, grain of salt, third-hand knowledge, etc.

WirelessGigabit 3y ago

Seems like that team moved to GitHub actions. How old is it? And we still don't have YAML anchors. Which is just a parser feature.

adamgordonbell 3y ago

My thinking is that you should extract as much logic as possible into some neutral format that you can run on any CI platform. Bash, Docker + Makefile, Earthly, python scripts... whatever keeps as much logic out of a proprietary vendor specific format. Then you can switch easier, if need be.