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great post. direct and to the point, although there are many more flaws that I am sure you could have shared. we tried MongoDB to consume and analyze market fe
by tolitius 14y ago
great post. direct and to the point, although there are many more flaws that I am sure you could have shared.
we tried MongoDB to consume and analyze market feeds, and it failed miserably. I can add a couple of things to your list:
* if there is a pending write due to an fsync lock, all reads are blocked: https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-4243 https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-4243
* data loss + 10gen's white lies: https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-3367?focusedCommentId=66490&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-66490 https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-3367?focusedCommentId...
* _re_ sharding is hard. shard key is should be chosen once and for all => that alone kills the schemaless advantage
* moving chunks between shards [manually or auto] can take hours / days depending on the dataset (but we talking big data, right?)
* aggregate (if any complex: e.g. not SUM, COUNT, MIN, MAX) over several gigs of data takes hours (many minutes at best). Not everything can be incremental..
Those are just several. MongoDB has an excellent marketing => Meghan Gill is great at what she does. But besides that, the tech is not quite there (yet?).
Nice going with Riak + PostgreSQL. I would also give Redis a try for things that you keep in memory => set theory ftw! :)
- armon 14y agoI work at Kiip, and I can confirm that our "non-durable purely in-memory solution" is Redis.
- taligent 14y agoMongoDB is successful because of more than just marketing. It has great tool support, decent documentation, books and is accessible. Plus the whole transition from MySQL concept makes it easy to grab onto.
- chad_walters 14y agoThat all supports the marketing effort. Mongo is optimized for a good out-of-the-box experience for developers. It is basically the MySQL model -- hook developers first, fix the fundamentals later. Caveat emptor.
- madworld 14y agoExactly, hook them in, so they question whether or not to deal with the problems when it falls on its face.