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Rise ov EV is in fact death of independent workshops and service centers. Encryption, components pairing everywhere.. Service costs for EV are crazy for even sm

by sp0ck 3y ago

Rise ov EV is in fact death of independent workshops and service centers. Encryption, components pairing everywhere.. Service costs for EV are crazy for even small problem anywhere close to battery or power circuits. These are two main reasons I stay away from EV. Buing is one thing. TCO after warranty is another one.

scrlk 3y ago
> Service costs for EV are crazy for even small problem anywhere close to battery or power circuits. This also has a knock-on effect for insurance prices: https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/sep/30/the-quotes-were-5000-or-more-electric-vehicle-owners-face-soaring-insurance-costs https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/sep/30/the-quotes-wer...
sigio 3y ago
There's EV-specialist workshops that are not brand-related and seem to be doing just fine. A friend of mine runs a Nissan Leaf upgrade/tuning company, and in various of TeslaBjorn (youtube) video's you see him visiting Elbilmec (norway), which does maintenance/fixing/upgrading various EV's (Tesla, Nissan, etc).
- dylan604 3y ago
  >workshops that are not brand-related<snip>runs a Nissan Leaf upgrade/tuning company, seems an odd example to follow that setup
linuxftw 3y ago
We're most of the way there with ICE vehicles anyway. New models have so many sensors and electronics, and parts are in such a short supply, you're mostly beholden to the dealers. Especially for any major components like the engine and transmissions. We need to do a better job as a society into shaming people for making terrible purchase decisions.
- pjc50 3y ago
  > We need to do a better job as a society into shaming people for making terrible purchase decisions ? The only victim of a bad purchase decision is the purchaser? Shouldn't we be shaming those who steer people into terrible purchase decisions, or make terrible products in the first place?
  - linuxftw 3y ago
    Unfortunately, there's enough people making poor purchasing decisions that it affects all of us. Want a car with physical knobs to control the climate and radio? Too bad, idiots like the new-shiny.
rjmunro 3y ago
In Tesla's case, it seems that repair costs and especially time to get parts are extreme for minor accidents from what I hear. Maybe it's not the case, but I think Tesla really need to fix this perception.
dylan604 3y ago
We're in a rent-seeking society now, so just lease the car so that post-warranty is never a concern

by sp0ck 3y ago

scrlk 3y ago

> Service costs for EV are crazy for even small problem anywhere close to battery or power circuits. This also has a knock-on effect for insurance prices: https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/sep/30/the-quotes-were-5000-or-more-electric-vehicle-owners-face-soaring-insurance-costs https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/sep/30/the-quotes-wer...

sigio 3y ago

There's EV-specialist workshops that are not brand-related and seem to be doing just fine. A friend of mine runs a Nissan Leaf upgrade/tuning company, and in various of TeslaBjorn (youtube) video's you see him visiting Elbilmec (norway), which does maintenance/fixing/upgrading various EV's (Tesla, Nissan, etc).

dylan604 3y ago
>workshops that are not brand-related<snip>runs a Nissan Leaf upgrade/tuning company, seems an odd example to follow that setup

linuxftw 3y ago

We're most of the way there with ICE vehicles anyway. New models have so many sensors and electronics, and parts are in such a short supply, you're mostly beholden to the dealers. Especially for any major components like the engine and transmissions. We need to do a better job as a society into shaming people for making terrible purchase decisions.

pjc50 3y ago
> We need to do a better job as a society into shaming people for making terrible purchase decisions ? The only victim of a bad purchase decision is the purchaser? Shouldn't we be shaming those who steer people into terrible purchase decisions, or make terrible products in the first place?
- linuxftw 3y ago
  Unfortunately, there's enough people making poor purchasing decisions that it affects all of us. Want a car with physical knobs to control the climate and radio? Too bad, idiots like the new-shiny.

rjmunro 3y ago

In Tesla's case, it seems that repair costs and especially time to get parts are extreme for minor accidents from what I hear. Maybe it's not the case, but I think Tesla really need to fix this perception.

dylan604 3y ago

We're in a rent-seeking society now, so just lease the car so that post-warranty is never a concern