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I think the invasion is less about Russia seeing Ukraine as an existential threat and more about Russia seeing Ukraine as rightfully there’s to take. That’s wh

by _kbh_ 3y ago

I think the invasion is less about Russia seeing Ukraine as an existential threat and more about Russia seeing Ukraine as rightfully there’s to take. That’s why I don’t think Russia would actually retaliate in any significant way to the use of starlink. They know it’s not an existential threat and that’s why they continue to draw red lines and when they get crossed literally nothing happens.

sneak 3y ago
If the first were true, I doubt Russia would be spending so much in the way of resources on simple territorial expansion (with the implicit long term expense of huge resources governing the conquered/occupied territory). The invasion isn’t good ROI for them otherwise, even if it went well, which it does not appear to be. I think the USSR restoration empire building narrative is overblown. Also, if what you say about red lines were true, the US would not be so hesitant to provide lots of advanced aircraft to Ukraine, which they have not done as yet despite this clearly being a full enemy-of-my-enemy proxy war. Signs point to everyone trying to avoid escalation.
- _kbh_ 3y ago
  > I think the USSR restoration empire building narrative is overblown. You should tell that to Russian media who posted this very long very USSR restoration empire building victory article a handful of days into the war. >>https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20... > Also, if what you say about red lines were true, the US would not be so hesitant to provide lots of advanced aircraft to Ukraine, which they have not done as yet despite this clearly being a full enemy-of-my-enemy proxy war. They are literally starting training on the aircraft next month iirc, and will receive them in 4-6 months after that. Nothing happened when all of Russias red lines were crossed, the Americans are merely boiling the frog to avoid escalation. I think Russias red lines are akin to chinas final warning now days, a joke.

by _kbh_ 3y ago

sneak 3y ago

If the first were true, I doubt Russia would be spending so much in the way of resources on simple territorial expansion (with the implicit long term expense of huge resources governing the conquered/occupied territory). The invasion isn’t good ROI for them otherwise, even if it went well, which it does not appear to be. I think the USSR restoration empire building narrative is overblown. Also, if what you say about red lines were true, the US would not be so hesitant to provide lots of advanced aircraft to Ukraine, which they have not done as yet despite this clearly being a full enemy-of-my-enemy proxy war. Signs point to everyone trying to avoid escalation.

_kbh_ 3y ago
> I think the USSR restoration empire building narrative is overblown. You should tell that to Russian media who posted this very long very USSR restoration empire building victory article a handful of days into the war. >>https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20... > Also, if what you say about red lines were true, the US would not be so hesitant to provide lots of advanced aircraft to Ukraine, which they have not done as yet despite this clearly being a full enemy-of-my-enemy proxy war. They are literally starting training on the aircraft next month iirc, and will receive them in 4-6 months after that. Nothing happened when all of Russias red lines were crossed, the Americans are merely boiling the frog to avoid escalation. I think Russias red lines are akin to chinas final warning now days, a joke.