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I think UBI and flat tax are fundamentally incompatible. Reasonable levels of UBI require high taxes, and doing so with entirely flat taxes will be quite puniti
by TimPC 3y ago
I think UBI and flat tax are fundamentally incompatible. Reasonable levels of UBI require high taxes, and doing so with entirely flat taxes will be quite punitive on the middle class. I think the vast majority of the population think there is a lot of merit to graduated tax rates as well, charging 50% tax on all of someone's income above $10,000,000 isn't as punitive to any sort of living standard as charging 50% tax on someone's first $30k of income.
If we want a UBI of $24,000/year ($2,000/month) for an adult population of 250 million we are talking 6 trillion dollars in additional government spending. Assume for a minute we can cut 2 trillion in spending so we are talking about a spending increase of 4 trillion. This would mean roughly doubling current government revenues. If you wanted to do so with a flat tax, you'd see rates near the top rate now on all income.
Are people ready for a world where you get $24,000/year from the government and pay something like a 40% tax on all your income? Compared to the current tax code you probably break even at roughly $75,000/year and for incomes above that you'd pay more in tax.
- FireBeyond 3y agoIn an in a very high income bracket, as I imagine many here are. I’ve also lived in “more socialist” countries where I paid higher taxes before moving to the US. I would have little to no problem passing higher taxes if there was any reasonable assurance that those taxes would go to worthwhile purposes (infrastructure, healthcare, education), and not to the military or pork. Sadly, in America, land of the middleman, we know how unlikely that is.