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I'm looking for something similar for PID controllers, or control systems in general. Specifically for a teenager. Most sources I can find are either college te

I'm looking for something similar for PID controllers, or control systems in general. Specifically for a teenager. Most sources I can find are either college textbooks or overly simple summaries for FIRST Lego League.

amelius 3y ago
https://www.wescottdesign.com/articles/pid/pidWithoutAPhd.pdf https://www.wescottdesign.com/articles/pid/pidWithoutAPhd.pd...
vero24 3y ago
https://file.tavsys.net/control/controls-engineering-in-frc.pdf https://file.tavsys.net/control/controls-engineering-in-frc.... This is pretty complex but its been super helpful for me in terms of understanding PID controllers.
- plusplusungood 3y ago
  That is pretty much exactly what I was looking for. Maybe a touch more complicated than what my 11 year old is ready for; but something he can stretch a bit with. Thank you!
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oger 3y ago
Elliott Williams (editor of Hackaday) held a very interesting talk this year at CCCamp that in very simple terms explained the components of a PID loop. Highly recommended! https://media.ccc.de/v/camp2023-57111-pid_loops_control_all_the_things https://media.ccc.de/v/camp2023-57111-pid_loops_control_all_...
mhh__ 3y ago
Terry Davis has a nice video of him demoing a physics program he wrote, where he is coding a PID for a rocket.
ebanorafael 3y ago
In my graduation days I've used this[1] and found it very useful. [1] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mohamed-Mourad-Lafifi/post/Is_there_any_wrong_in_my_Matlab_fcn_code/attachment/59d637e479197b80779952b9/AS%3A395117274910720%401471214707383/download/cnotes.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mohamed-Mourad-Lafifi/p...
CasperH2O 3y ago
I found this very insightful for a hobby project I worked on: https://controlguru.com/table-of-contents/ https://controlguru.com/table-of-contents/
jagged-chisel 3y ago
o/t but … I was attempting to understand how one might apply controls systems to a teenager until one of my internal processing threads got around to the correct reading of your comment.
- tnecniv 3y ago
  Humans are just complicated plants! (A plant is a generic term used in controls for “the system you are controlling”)
baylessj 3y ago
George Gillard's PID document is circulated widely for teaching high school students about PID for the VEX Robotics Competition: https://smithcsrobot.weebly.com/uploads/6/0/9/5/60954939/pid_control_document.pdf https://smithcsrobot.weebly.com/uploads/6/0/9/5/60954939/pid... I'd also add a +1 to the suggestion of the Controls Engineering in FRC book, but the math in that book is significantly more complex than Gillard's guide.

amelius 3y ago

https://www.wescottdesign.com/articles/pid/pidWithoutAPhd.pdf https://www.wescottdesign.com/articles/pid/pidWithoutAPhd.pd...

vero24 3y ago

https://file.tavsys.net/control/controls-engineering-in-frc.pdf https://file.tavsys.net/control/controls-engineering-in-frc.... This is pretty complex but its been super helpful for me in terms of understanding PID controllers.

plusplusungood 3y ago
That is pretty much exactly what I was looking for. Maybe a touch more complicated than what my 11 year old is ready for; but something he can stretch a bit with. Thank you!

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oger 3y ago

Elliott Williams (editor of Hackaday) held a very interesting talk this year at CCCamp that in very simple terms explained the components of a PID loop. Highly recommended! https://media.ccc.de/v/camp2023-57111-pid_loops_control_all_the_things https://media.ccc.de/v/camp2023-57111-pid_loops_control_all_...

mhh__ 3y ago

Terry Davis has a nice video of him demoing a physics program he wrote, where he is coding a PID for a rocket.

ebanorafael 3y ago

In my graduation days I've used this[1] and found it very useful. [1] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mohamed-Mourad-Lafifi/post/Is_there_any_wrong_in_my_Matlab_fcn_code/attachment/59d637e479197b80779952b9/AS%3A395117274910720%401471214707383/download/cnotes.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mohamed-Mourad-Lafifi/p...

CasperH2O 3y ago

I found this very insightful for a hobby project I worked on: https://controlguru.com/table-of-contents/ https://controlguru.com/table-of-contents/

jagged-chisel 3y ago

o/t but … I was attempting to understand how one might apply controls systems to a teenager until one of my internal processing threads got around to the correct reading of your comment.

tnecniv 3y ago
Humans are just complicated plants! (A plant is a generic term used in controls for “the system you are controlling”)

baylessj 3y ago

George Gillard's PID document is circulated widely for teaching high school students about PID for the VEX Robotics Competition: https://smithcsrobot.weebly.com/uploads/6/0/9/5/60954939/pid_control_document.pdf https://smithcsrobot.weebly.com/uploads/6/0/9/5/60954939/pid... I'd also add a +1 to the suggestion of the Controls Engineering in FRC book, but the math in that book is significantly more complex than Gillard's guide.