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Yes but an F250 does not use leaded gas like many planes do, has much more complete and efficient combustion, and likely produces far less particulate emissions
by profile53 3y ago
Yes but an F250 does not use leaded gas like many planes do, has much more complete and efficient combustion, and likely produces far less particulate emissions.
- ceejayoz 3y agoPrivate jets don't use leaded gas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel No amount of cherry picking is gonna get you to the 10,000x number upthread.
- Blackcatmaxy 3y agoPrivate planes absolutely still use leaded gas https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/leaded-gas-was-phased-out-25-years-ago-why-are-n1264970 https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/leaded-gas-wa... https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/leaded-aviation-fuel-and-environment https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/leaded-aviation-fuel-and-enviro...
- vdqtp3 3y agoIt's funny watching you all use different words and think they mean the same thing. Turbine powered aircraft, whether jet, fan or prop (a Citation is a turbofan powered aircraft) use Jet-A which is basically diesel (OK, OK, it's kerosene but they aren't that different). Piston planes (of which there are plenty) mostly use 100LL - high octane, leaded gasoline. Now that we're done with the pedantry, please continue with your argument.
- ceejayoz 3y agoYes, if you change entire words in my post you can make it say anything you like.
- Blackcatmaxy 3y agoParent talked about private planes which you changed to talk about specifically private jets which doesn't disprove "many planes" using leaded gas.
- ceejayoz 3y agoDirect quote from the parent: “ If you’re a wealthy politician with a private jet”
- missedthecue 3y agoJets don't
- sam345 3y agoJust curious, where in the wikipedia article does it say Private jets don't use leaded gas ? Just searching the article for "lead" only gets this quote: "The possibility of environmental legislation banning the use of leaded avgas (fuel in spark-ignited internal combustion engine, which usually contains tetraethyllead (TEL), a toxic substance added to prevent engine knocking), and the lack of a replacement fuel with similar performance, has left aircraft designers and pilot's organizations searching for alternative engines for use in small aircraft." Also a reference to "Planemakers challenged to find unleaded fuel option - The Wichita Eagle" a 2009 article which has a dead link. Curious to me why you would cite an article that says the opposite of your assertion and then repeat the definitive statement. I must be missing something.
- ceejayoz 3y agoAvgas is not used in jets. It’s for the little four seat propeller Cessnas you see tooling around.
- ska 3y agoJets don't use avgas (which is still available with lead), they use jet fuel. The planes you are thinking of are mostly used for hobby flying or some short haul commercial flights, e.g. float planes. These have piston engines, more like your car ICE.
- paulddraper 3y ago> No amount of cherry picking is gonna get you to the 10,000x number I cherry-pick "5 miles in a F-150" vs "5000 miles in a Citation." Cherry-pick complete.
- fallingknife 3y agoAnd I nit pick your cherry pick on the grounds that 1000x miles * 5.2x efficiency ratio only gets you to 5200x, far short of 10K
- paulddraper 3y agoAn F-150 has better gas mileage than a F-250.
- jojobas 3y agoPlanes emit their crap at a higher altitude which somehow makes a greater impact or so I hear.