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I firmly believe this will suffer the same fate as 3d tv. Even sports couldn’t save the 3d tv. I think the most that people would ever consider would be a HUD

I firmly believe this will suffer the same fate as 3d tv. Even sports couldn’t save the 3d tv. I think the most that people would ever consider would be a HUD with some walking directions or something. I could be wrong and it ends up being the biggest thing since the PC, but I just don’t understand even the most optimistic takes outside of cool gaming experiences.

lm28469 3y ago
VR/AR is being hyped on and off for 30 years, until it gets contact lens sized it's useless for most people
- goodoldneon 3y ago
  It doesn't need to be contact lens sized. There's a sizeable market for AR glasses, as long as their form factor is indistinguishable from regular glasses
  - ghaff 3y ago
    Fashionable glasses would be just fine. It’s still in science fiction territory compared to the current state of the art.
tmikaeld 3y ago
It's interesting that you touch on the 3D TV, because real (180 degree, 3D, 3600P) 3D video in VR is really stunning compared to flat-screen. This is where i think Apple can get a real foot into the door eventually, because the experience would be such a large leap from flatscreen.
- throwaway2203 3y ago
  Content would be incredibly hard to produce for it though.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago
    I suspect most video game developers would suggest otherwise. The engines are really good. In fact, I think that a couple of movies have been made, using Unreal. Those are coming together with AR. That said, advertisers could easily kill this, and there's so much money in ads, that I don't know if there's any way to prevent that.
    - jayd16 3y ago
      Uhm, no. It's incredibly expensive to make high quality content suitable for 3D viewing. Compared to shooting some video it's way more expensive.
      - ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago
        Not sure why that is a "no." Many modern video games are completely VR-immersive, and with impressive quality, if you have the kit. Yeah, it's expensive, but pro anything is expensive. I have friends that have made movies, and have given me some insight into the process. It's not really something that I think I'd enjoy. What will kill it, will be cheap-ass ads, splattered around a high-quality scene.
        smoldesu 3y ago
        > What will kill it, will be cheap-ass ads, splattered around a high-quality scene. I'll take "Things that never stopped the Internet from succeeding" for $400, Alex.
        ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago
        I hope that you're right, but there are folks that might argue about the definition of "succeeding." For advertisers, the only metric is "$". Others may have different priorities. But you have a point. A stroll around the Ginza District at night, shows how advertising can actually become a cultural heritage.
- jononomo 3y ago
  180 degree, 3D, 3600P, etc, still doesn't make a TV show better than the book, though.
- germinalphrase 3y ago
  Can you recommend a good demo video?
  - tmikaeld 3y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKaqOsaCpDI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKaqOsaCpDI
makeitdouble 3y ago
On one side, a cool gaming experience would already be enough of a market. Looking at the Switch for instance, it's not something to sneeze at. Now I don't think there will a "killer" app, but probably many niches, with one or more resonating with each of us. The same way current TV business isn't surviving on a single use case, but a constellation of cases where people want a big screen in their living room.
verdverm 3y ago
Virtual monitors / desktop

lm28469 3y ago

VR/AR is being hyped on and off for 30 years, until it gets contact lens sized it's useless for most people

goodoldneon 3y ago
It doesn't need to be contact lens sized. There's a sizeable market for AR glasses, as long as their form factor is indistinguishable from regular glasses
- ghaff 3y ago
  Fashionable glasses would be just fine. It’s still in science fiction territory compared to the current state of the art.

tmikaeld 3y ago

It's interesting that you touch on the 3D TV, because real (180 degree, 3D, 3600P) 3D video in VR is really stunning compared to flat-screen. This is where i think Apple can get a real foot into the door eventually, because the experience would be such a large leap from flatscreen.

throwaway2203 3y ago
Content would be incredibly hard to produce for it though.
- ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago
  I suspect most video game developers would suggest otherwise. The engines are really good. In fact, I think that a couple of movies have been made, using Unreal. Those are coming together with AR. That said, advertisers could easily kill this, and there's so much money in ads, that I don't know if there's any way to prevent that.
  - jayd16 3y ago
    Uhm, no. It's incredibly expensive to make high quality content suitable for 3D viewing. Compared to shooting some video it's way more expensive.
    - ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago
      Not sure why that is a "no." Many modern video games are completely VR-immersive, and with impressive quality, if you have the kit. Yeah, it's expensive, but pro anything is expensive. I have friends that have made movies, and have given me some insight into the process. It's not really something that I think I'd enjoy. What will kill it, will be cheap-ass ads, splattered around a high-quality scene.
      - smoldesu 3y ago
        > What will kill it, will be cheap-ass ads, splattered around a high-quality scene. I'll take "Things that never stopped the Internet from succeeding" for $400, Alex.
        ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago
        I hope that you're right, but there are folks that might argue about the definition of "succeeding." For advertisers, the only metric is "$". Others may have different priorities. But you have a point. A stroll around the Ginza District at night, shows how advertising can actually become a cultural heritage.
jononomo 3y ago
180 degree, 3D, 3600P, etc, still doesn't make a TV show better than the book, though.
germinalphrase 3y ago
Can you recommend a good demo video?
- tmikaeld 3y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKaqOsaCpDI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKaqOsaCpDI

makeitdouble 3y ago

On one side, a cool gaming experience would already be enough of a market. Looking at the Switch for instance, it's not something to sneeze at. Now I don't think there will a "killer" app, but probably many niches, with one or more resonating with each of us. The same way current TV business isn't surviving on a single use case, but a constellation of cases where people want a big screen in their living room.

verdverm 3y ago

Virtual monitors / desktop