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I'm a late adopter of HN, but was a bit surprised to see nothing about Israel/Hamas on the home page. Is that sort of political stuff forbidden, or is there jus
by barcode_feeder 3y ago
I'm a late adopter of HN, but was a bit surprised to see nothing about Israel/Hamas on the home page. Is that sort of political stuff forbidden, or is there just no interest in this community?
- MattGaiser 3y agoForbidden per the guidelines. > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- praptak 3y agoNote it says "most" and "probably". Evening news grade stuff is still admissible if it fits the "On Topic" conditions.
- temp10723 3y ago[flagged]
- TheGigaChad 3y ago[dead]
- oneplane 3y agoCheck https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html and https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html In general, even if it's submitted, it's up to a bunch of clicks on the small arrows to keep it on the first page, and other submissions might win instead. Even if there was a "it must be about hardware or software" rule, that wouldn't be such a bad thing, otherwise we'd just end up getting another reddit.
- tguvot 3y agothis is another reddit. just with less functionality
- bobthepanda 3y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html The guideline criteria say not to submit flamebait, to submit things with interesting, novel intellectual discussion, and generally nothing that is on tv news. I would imagine that the decades long Israeli/Palestinian conflict would violate all three.
- temp10723 3y ago> I would imagine that the decades long Israeli/Palestinian conflict would violate all three. So would the Russian/Ukrainian conflict, and yet[1] [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30450336 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30450336
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- piotrrojek 3y agoSlightly offtopic, but it's interesting to read comments from that day knowing what we know now. Especially those stating that there will be no conventional war nor loss of life.
- somenameforme 3y agoI'd add to this that I think that thread is why it's interesting to see/have these discussions on Hacker News. The "appropriate" places for these topics aren't especially interesting because they tend to be ideological echo chambers for one side or the other. That leads to trite and banal "discussion", if it can even be called that. Actually seeing 'real' people all across the spectrum of views, values, backgrounds, and so on is just so much more interesting.
- bobthepanda 3y agoThe fact that these conversations are rare on HN, is why the conversation tends not to be trite and banal.
- kiernanmcgowan 3y agoAnything that can lead to flame wars is frowned upon and gets pruned in a number of ways. Political topics tend not to lead to useful, sober discussions.
- reactordev 3y agoTo echo others, it’s against policy. Not that we don’t care (we do) but that it’s better covered (and serviced) elsewhere, this isn’t the forum for those kinds of discussions.
- hotnfresh 3y agoIt’s a guaranteed unproductive flame war. The exact same flame war that’s been happening about as long as the Internet has existed. It’s really boring at this point.
- DSingularity 3y agoJust stop at unproductive. We don’t expect comments on HN to upend the power-structures which fuel this ongoing conflict. Calling it boring — as if it had the potential to entertain - seems an bit insensitive to all the victims of the current and past hostilities.
- signatoremo 3y agoBoring in the sense that any such threads are predictably flamewar. Not that the tragedy is boring.
- hotnfresh 3y agoJFC. Boring in the sense that exactly nothing new is going to be posted and anyone who’s seen a couple of these could write entire exchanges that will happen basically verbatim. The discussion is guaranteed to be 100% a repeat of all the other ones. So, boring.
- junofan 3y agoI dunno, a thousand terrorists coordinating land, sea, and air (paraglider and drone) over WhatsApp with videographers posting professionally editing footage to Telegram in real-time is actually pretty interesting.
- hotnfresh 3y agoThe news may be interesting. No open-registration forum has generated an interesting thread about this topic since the very first such discussion that ever happened. It's basically one of those laws of the Internet.
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- dragonwriter 3y agoFrom the guidelines: > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. The most recent fluctuations of the war between Israel and its neighbors that has been going on literally since Israel existed with lulls but rarely more than a few weeks without new armed attacks or human rights abuses directed by one side against the other (and with, on both sides, deliberate or indiscriminate targeting, and systematic collective punishment of civilians being more a norm than an exception, with the excuse that what the other side is doing justifies it, makes even events that feature these not novel phenomena even in the context of the specific conflict.)
- throw_m239339 3y ago> I'm a late adopter of HN, but was a bit surprised to see nothing about Israel/Hamas on the home page. Is that sort of political stuff forbidden, or is there just no interest in this community? Because it isn't reddit. I'm sure this forum is full of Israeli but also Muslim devs, do you really want that kind of strife on HN? I don't. There is no way that kind of discussion will not devolved into a giant mess. It's even not because it's controversial, there has been outrageous topics on this forum (from my perspective), but it's already discussed everywhere else, with the exact same predictable results...
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y agoThere is no interest in showing Israel being attacked but there is plenty of political discussion such as daily flamewars about ancient misdeeds of US three letter agencies (but almost never discussions when these agencies shut down a botnet or do something positive). These rules are either applied unfairly or the community is full of shills that make it appear that way.
- l3mure 3y ago> but never discussions when these agencies shut down a botnet https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35445867 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35445867 (121 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37310772 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37310772 (171 comments)
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- temp10723 3y agoThe Ukraine/Russia war was OK[1] to post, so it seems weird that Israel/Palestinian wouldn't be. [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30450336 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30450336
- bobthepanda 3y agoA land invasion bordering what is now the EU hasn’t happened in over half a century. And most of the posts are technical discussions about the implications of the war, like Russia trying to get an airplane to fly out of a wheat field; not inane “X has progressed 200 meters” or whatnot.
- temp10723 3y ago[flagged]
- r721 3y agoRelatively small amount of flaggers can keep a topic off the front page if they think it doesn't belong there.
- rocknor 3y agoThis is all you need to know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z9UyPurVok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z9UyPurVok