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Not convinced yet of AMD an Linux for mobile devices. Just sent back a T14s Gen 4 with Ryzen I wait for a long time because of power/stability issues (S2idle, s

by linza 3y ago

Not convinced yet of AMD an Linux for mobile devices. Just sent back a T14s Gen 4 with Ryzen I wait for a long time because of power/stability issues (S2idle, sleep+wakeup problems, GPU, WiFi, ...). I really hope AMD gets quality on par with Intel in this space. Maybe Framework did a better job than Lenovo, but I'm done experimenting for (going X1 Gen 11 now).

beebeepka 3y ago
What? I have a number of Zen 1/2/3 laptops and the only one that gave me any trouble on Linux was the Zen 1 one. My wife has been using for 5 years. Everything else has been rock solid with a number of different distributions.
tlhunter 3y ago
My T14s AMD Gen 1 has been rock solid with Linux
- benoliver999 3y ago
  I have a T495 and it's fine.
rjh29 3y ago
Both Gen 1 and Gen 3 AMD have been extremely stable with good battery life. The Gen 4 is new so it might take a few months for the kernel team to work out all of the bugs. The X1 Gen 11 is a very premium machine but compared to the T series it's very expensive, and the CPU is underclocked.
- sva_ 3y ago
  > The X1 Gen 11 is a very premium machine but compared to the T series it's very expensive Out of curiousity I set up a machine with max specs i7-1370p, 64GB RAM, 2.8K OLED; and the price came out to be $1685. Doesn't seem unreasonably expensive if you wait for a sale.
  - rjh29 3y ago
    Fair enough, it's almost double that in the UK.
    - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
      So buy a cheap ticket to the US to buy it and bring it back and it will still be less than double.
      - rjh29 3y ago
        Assuming my time is worth nothing！
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        You can work out the cost of a day of your time and add it into the equation then.
soperj 3y ago
I have a T14 with Ryzen that I've used as a linux laptop from day 1 with the only issue being the wifi card, which I was able to solve on day 2 and haven't had an issue with since.
anotherhue 3y ago
>Not convinced yet of AMD an Linux for mobile devices Hard to argue with the Steam Deck.
- MikusR 3y ago
  SteamDeck has a dedicated team of developers supporting that particular hardware
  - schmorptron 3y ago
    I wonder how it is on those linux laptop companies like tuxedo or system76. I know tuxedo and starbook etc. are just rebadged clevos, so they probably can't afford whole teams for hardware / software optimization, but sysem76 could have the engineering capacity for it.
binkHN 3y ago
I have a similar Gen 4 machine, but in P14s form, and all is well with the exception of sleep and wake up. I'm hoping that gets addressed quickly with some BIOS and kernel updates.

by linza 3y ago

beebeepka 3y ago

What? I have a number of Zen 1/2/3 laptops and the only one that gave me any trouble on Linux was the Zen 1 one. My wife has been using for 5 years. Everything else has been rock solid with a number of different distributions.

tlhunter 3y ago

My T14s AMD Gen 1 has been rock solid with Linux

benoliver999 3y ago
I have a T495 and it's fine.

rjh29 3y ago

Both Gen 1 and Gen 3 AMD have been extremely stable with good battery life. The Gen 4 is new so it might take a few months for the kernel team to work out all of the bugs. The X1 Gen 11 is a very premium machine but compared to the T series it's very expensive, and the CPU is underclocked.

sva_ 3y ago
> The X1 Gen 11 is a very premium machine but compared to the T series it's very expensive Out of curiousity I set up a machine with max specs i7-1370p, 64GB RAM, 2.8K OLED; and the price came out to be $1685. Doesn't seem unreasonably expensive if you wait for a sale.
- rjh29 3y ago
  Fair enough, it's almost double that in the UK.
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    So buy a cheap ticket to the US to buy it and bring it back and it will still be less than double.
    - rjh29 3y ago
      Assuming my time is worth nothing！
      - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        You can work out the cost of a day of your time and add it into the equation then.

soperj 3y ago

I have a T14 with Ryzen that I've used as a linux laptop from day 1 with the only issue being the wifi card, which I was able to solve on day 2 and haven't had an issue with since.

anotherhue 3y ago

>Not convinced yet of AMD an Linux for mobile devices Hard to argue with the Steam Deck.

MikusR 3y ago
SteamDeck has a dedicated team of developers supporting that particular hardware
- schmorptron 3y ago
  I wonder how it is on those linux laptop companies like tuxedo or system76. I know tuxedo and starbook etc. are just rebadged clevos, so they probably can't afford whole teams for hardware / software optimization, but sysem76 could have the engineering capacity for it.

binkHN 3y ago

I have a similar Gen 4 machine, but in P14s form, and all is well with the exception of sleep and wake up. I'm hoping that gets addressed quickly with some BIOS and kernel updates.