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If you seek the truth, you will find it. In fact, a majority of people in this world are on the side of the Russians, despite what you were led to believe. A go

by bilbyx 3y ago

If you seek the truth, you will find it. In fact, a majority of people in this world are on the side of the Russians, despite what you were led to believe. A good starting point is to listen to Professor John Mearsheimer.

libertine 3y ago
Why do you claim the "majority of people" support the genocide of Ukraine? What have Ukrainians done to more than 5 billion people to support wiping out of Ukraine? If it was the majority, I shouldn't need to seek it, it would be out there to see.
- mikecoles 3y ago
  The genocide came from within.
- dissentingview 3y ago
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  - Const-me 3y ago
    > Why is Russia the top Ukrainian refugee destination? UN officials think Poland is the top destination: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_refugee_crisis_(2022%E2%80%93present)#Number_of_refugees https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_refugee_crisis_(2022... > Why is Russia giving full citizenship to Ukrainians? They want to annex Ukraine, of course they’re giving their citizenship. They do it in all occupied territories: DNR/LNR, Crimea, Abkhazia (90% took it), South Ossetia (95% took it). > Why hasn't Russia banned anything Ukrainian? They have even banned the colors of the Ukrainian flag: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jun/5/russia-muzzles-public-displays-of-blue-and-yellow-/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jun/5/russia-muzzl...
    - dissentingview 3y ago
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      - libertine 3y ago
        > Those accepting citizenship probably understand the situation better than we do, and aren't doing it to self-genocide. When Russia denies basic services to those who don't have Russian passports, it's either take it or become a second class citizen, like Russia did in Ukraine: https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-withholds-meds-ukrainians-who-refuse-russian-passport-2023-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-withholds-meds-ukrain... It's a horrible position to be forced to take a passport you don't want in order to survive - in your own home. It's an atrocious crime against humanity, and a blatant attempt to dilute those who aren't Russians into forced Russian citizens. But if you want an even more evil attempt to destroy Ukraine national identity in occupied territory is what Russia is doing by forcing schools to teach a distorted event about the Russian invasion and indoctrinate children: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/09/ukraine-russia-new-history-textbook-is-a-blatant-attempt-to-unlawfully-indoctrinate-school-children-in-russia-and-russian-occupied-ukrainian-territories/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/09/ukraine-russi... Or this is also propaganda?
  - libertine 3y ago
    That's some messed up argument you're making there - like all the Ukrainians had the same choice to be refugees in a given country. Like poor people with no resources that got invaded by Russia had the time and resources to weight options and choose a better destination. It's disgusting what you're doing - you're literally washing genocide. Let me guess, for you the +20.000 Ukrainian children kidnapped and filtrated by Russia are there to be kept safe from the war? For almost 2 years they weren't returned to their guardians to be kept safe uh? A crime for which Putin is internationally wanted, and it's one of the crimes that constitutes genocide. > Interesting 'genocide'. I think you should look into what genocide is, and how Russia has done it in the past.
    - dissentingview 3y ago
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catlover76 3y ago
1) "a majority of people in this world" don't give a fuck, factually speaking; 2) if they did, that still wouldn't be an independent reason to think that's correct--you may not have noticed, but most people are selfish, stupid, and ignorant; 3) "despite what you were led to believe." -- it was never a claim of anyone pro-Ukraine that the majority of people in the world are on their side. Nor should it be. The opinion of the majority does not determine what is right.

by bilbyx 3y ago

libertine 3y ago

Why do you claim the "majority of people" support the genocide of Ukraine? What have Ukrainians done to more than 5 billion people to support wiping out of Ukraine? If it was the majority, I shouldn't need to seek it, it would be out there to see.

mikecoles 3y ago
The genocide came from within.
dissentingview 3y ago
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- Const-me 3y ago
  > Why is Russia the top Ukrainian refugee destination? UN officials think Poland is the top destination: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_refugee_crisis_(2022%E2%80%93present)#Number_of_refugees https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_refugee_crisis_(2022... > Why is Russia giving full citizenship to Ukrainians? They want to annex Ukraine, of course they’re giving their citizenship. They do it in all occupied territories: DNR/LNR, Crimea, Abkhazia (90% took it), South Ossetia (95% took it). > Why hasn't Russia banned anything Ukrainian? They have even banned the colors of the Ukrainian flag: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jun/5/russia-muzzles-public-displays-of-blue-and-yellow-/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jun/5/russia-muzzl...
  - dissentingview 3y ago
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    - libertine 3y ago
      > Those accepting citizenship probably understand the situation better than we do, and aren't doing it to self-genocide. When Russia denies basic services to those who don't have Russian passports, it's either take it or become a second class citizen, like Russia did in Ukraine: https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-withholds-meds-ukrainians-who-refuse-russian-passport-2023-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-withholds-meds-ukrain... It's a horrible position to be forced to take a passport you don't want in order to survive - in your own home. It's an atrocious crime against humanity, and a blatant attempt to dilute those who aren't Russians into forced Russian citizens. But if you want an even more evil attempt to destroy Ukraine national identity in occupied territory is what Russia is doing by forcing schools to teach a distorted event about the Russian invasion and indoctrinate children: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/09/ukraine-russia-new-history-textbook-is-a-blatant-attempt-to-unlawfully-indoctrinate-school-children-in-russia-and-russian-occupied-ukrainian-territories/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/09/ukraine-russi... Or this is also propaganda?
- libertine 3y ago
  That's some messed up argument you're making there - like all the Ukrainians had the same choice to be refugees in a given country. Like poor people with no resources that got invaded by Russia had the time and resources to weight options and choose a better destination. It's disgusting what you're doing - you're literally washing genocide. Let me guess, for you the +20.000 Ukrainian children kidnapped and filtrated by Russia are there to be kept safe from the war? For almost 2 years they weren't returned to their guardians to be kept safe uh? A crime for which Putin is internationally wanted, and it's one of the crimes that constitutes genocide. > Interesting 'genocide'. I think you should look into what genocide is, and how Russia has done it in the past.
  - dissentingview 3y ago
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catlover76 3y ago

1) "a majority of people in this world" don't give a fuck, factually speaking; 2) if they did, that still wouldn't be an independent reason to think that's correct--you may not have noticed, but most people are selfish, stupid, and ignorant; 3) "despite what you were led to believe." -- it was never a claim of anyone pro-Ukraine that the majority of people in the world are on their side. Nor should it be. The opinion of the majority does not determine what is right.