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GPT-4 is not the same product. I know it seems like it due to the way they position 3.5 and 4 on the same page, but they are really quite separate things. When

GPT-4 is not the same product. I know it seems like it due to the way they position 3.5 and 4 on the same page, but they are really quite separate things. When I signed up for ChatGPT plus I didn't even bother using 3.5 because I knew it would be inferior. I still have only used it a handful of times. GPT-4 is just so much farther ahead that using 3.5 is just a waste of time.

elicksaur 3y ago
Would you mind sharing some threads where you thought ChatGPT was useful? These discussions always feel like I’m living on a different planet with a different implementation of large language models than others who claim they’re great. The problems I run into seem to stem from the fundamental nature of this class of products.
- michaelt 3y ago
  The usefulness of ChatGPT is a bit situational, in my experience. But in the right situations it can be pretty powerful. Take a look at https://chat.openai.com/share/41bdb053-facd-448b-b446-1ba1f12b2f92 https://chat.openai.com/share/41bdb053-facd-448b-b446-1ba1f1... for example.
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    A great example. Here's a similar one from me: https://cloud.typingmind.com/share/d2000ffc-a1bf-4b71-b59d-ce8d1aa2bdc1 https://cloud.typingmind.com/share/d2000ffc-a1bf-4b71-b59d-c.... Context: had a bunch of photos and videos I wanted to share with a colleague, without uploading them to any cloud. I asked GPT-4 to write me a trivial single-page gallery that doesn't look like crap, feeding it the output of `ls -l` on the media directory, got it on first shot, copy-pasted and uploaded the whole bundle to a personal server - all in few minutes. It took maybe 15 minutes from the idea of doing it first occurring to me, to a private link I could share. I have plenty more of those touching C++, Emacs Lisp, Python, generating vCARD and iCalendar files out of blobs of hastily-retyped or copy-pasted text, etc. The common thread here is: one-off, ad-hoc requests, usually underspecified. GPT-4 is quite good at being a fully generic tool for one-off jobs. This is something that never existed before, except in form of delegating a task to another human.
- astrange 3y ago
  I agree that none of the problems people have mentioned above happen with GPT4. It used to be more reliable when web browsing worked, but it's still pretty reliable.
- LouisSayers 3y ago
  Here's a convo I had yesterday when thinking about how to print a Binary Search Tree. https://chat.openai.com/share/338e7397-0201-44f4-a2c3-75b7333938c4 https://chat.openai.com/share/338e7397-0201-44f4-a2c3-75b733... I use ChatGPT for all sorts of things - looking into visas for countries, coding, reverse engineering companies from job descriptions, brainstorming etc etc. It saves a lot of time and gives way more value than what you pay for it.

elicksaur 3y ago

Would you mind sharing some threads where you thought ChatGPT was useful? These discussions always feel like I’m living on a different planet with a different implementation of large language models than others who claim they’re great. The problems I run into seem to stem from the fundamental nature of this class of products.

michaelt 3y ago
The usefulness of ChatGPT is a bit situational, in my experience. But in the right situations it can be pretty powerful. Take a look at https://chat.openai.com/share/41bdb053-facd-448b-b446-1ba1f12b2f92 https://chat.openai.com/share/41bdb053-facd-448b-b446-1ba1f1... for example.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  A great example. Here's a similar one from me: https://cloud.typingmind.com/share/d2000ffc-a1bf-4b71-b59d-ce8d1aa2bdc1 https://cloud.typingmind.com/share/d2000ffc-a1bf-4b71-b59d-c.... Context: had a bunch of photos and videos I wanted to share with a colleague, without uploading them to any cloud. I asked GPT-4 to write me a trivial single-page gallery that doesn't look like crap, feeding it the output of `ls -l` on the media directory, got it on first shot, copy-pasted and uploaded the whole bundle to a personal server - all in few minutes. It took maybe 15 minutes from the idea of doing it first occurring to me, to a private link I could share. I have plenty more of those touching C++, Emacs Lisp, Python, generating vCARD and iCalendar files out of blobs of hastily-retyped or copy-pasted text, etc. The common thread here is: one-off, ad-hoc requests, usually underspecified. GPT-4 is quite good at being a fully generic tool for one-off jobs. This is something that never existed before, except in form of delegating a task to another human.
astrange 3y ago
I agree that none of the problems people have mentioned above happen with GPT4. It used to be more reliable when web browsing worked, but it's still pretty reliable.
LouisSayers 3y ago
Here's a convo I had yesterday when thinking about how to print a Binary Search Tree. https://chat.openai.com/share/338e7397-0201-44f4-a2c3-75b7333938c4 https://chat.openai.com/share/338e7397-0201-44f4-a2c3-75b733... I use ChatGPT for all sorts of things - looking into visas for countries, coding, reverse engineering companies from job descriptions, brainstorming etc etc. It saves a lot of time and gives way more value than what you pay for it.