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Ha, I remember that news item, although from the other end of the world, and not really sure where I read it. The gist was that the first email had been sent to

Ha, I remember that news item, although from the other end of the world, and not really sure where I read it. The gist was that the first email had been sent to Australia, and I do distinctly remember that Melbourne was the endpoint.

SulphurCrested 3y ago
We certainly had email before 1989. I managed systems at another university and had a working .edu.au email address there, email servers and a usenet feed, and had left that job by late 1986. In fact one of my systems was a beta for 4.2 BSD and I remember the protocol change to TCP from whatever came before it. At the same time Australia’s TLD changed from .oz to .au. Wikipedia says 4.2BSD came out in August 1983, so the 4.1z beta we ran must have come before that. The University of Melbourne (munnari.oz) had a leased line to DEC’s Western Research Labs (decwrl) over which all of Australia’s traffic flowed. My systems connected to the Computer Science department’s machine, which had a link to munnari. Netnews was an overnight affair, and email slow. It was possible to remotely log in to an MIT system.
- Scoundreller 3y ago
  Any truth to early Australian usenet access just being a 10mb tape drive being mailed around (either internally, or internationally?)
  - SulphurCrested 3y ago
    Ours was via the network, although I think we didn’t take the alt tree. Unix distributions, on the other hand, arrived on 9-track tape via the “distribution tree”. You would get a copy, then make copies and send those on. Bug reports (at least in my experience) went back the same way. I found the TCP URGENT off-by-one bug in the BSD API, and tried to report it to my upstream; it came back “will not fix”, but it was unclear whether that was some gatekeeper between me and BSD.
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- emmelaich 3y ago
  What came before it was ACSnet I believe, but it wasn't that pervasive or long lived. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MHSnet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MHSnet
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  My formative memories were on YoYo, a Monash University student group-owned DEC Alpha which was so overloaded with users that it never saw a load average not in the triple digits... ... and had an EFnet server that could only run from 9pm to 5am or so because it'd otherwise cripple connectivity (even before DoS style stuff).

SulphurCrested 3y ago

We certainly had email before 1989. I managed systems at another university and had a working .edu.au email address there, email servers and a usenet feed, and had left that job by late 1986. In fact one of my systems was a beta for 4.2 BSD and I remember the protocol change to TCP from whatever came before it. At the same time Australia’s TLD changed from .oz to .au. Wikipedia says 4.2BSD came out in August 1983, so the 4.1z beta we ran must have come before that. The University of Melbourne (munnari.oz) had a leased line to DEC’s Western Research Labs (decwrl) over which all of Australia’s traffic flowed. My systems connected to the Computer Science department’s machine, which had a link to munnari. Netnews was an overnight affair, and email slow. It was possible to remotely log in to an MIT system.

Scoundreller 3y ago
Any truth to early Australian usenet access just being a 10mb tape drive being mailed around (either internally, or internationally?)
- SulphurCrested 3y ago
  Ours was via the network, although I think we didn’t take the alt tree. Unix distributions, on the other hand, arrived on 9-track tape via the “distribution tree”. You would get a copy, then make copies and send those on. Bug reports (at least in my experience) went back the same way. I found the TCP URGENT off-by-one bug in the BSD API, and tried to report it to my upstream; it came back “will not fix”, but it was unclear whether that was some gatekeeper between me and BSD.
- deleted 3y ago
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emmelaich 3y ago
What came before it was ACSnet I believe, but it wasn't that pervasive or long lived. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MHSnet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MHSnet
FireBeyond 3y ago
My formative memories were on YoYo, a Monash University student group-owned DEC Alpha which was so overloaded with users that it never saw a load average not in the triple digits... ... and had an EFnet server that could only run from 9pm to 5am or so because it'd otherwise cripple connectivity (even before DoS style stuff).