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That cynicism you have about those studies is probably because you don't eat enough eggs. Or too many. I'm not sure...

PaulHoule 3y ago
At least I get eggs from a neighbor and not “big egg”; I keep thinking about getting my own chickens but that’s not the way I want to feed Mr. Fox who lives in my neighborhood too.
- the_af 3y ago
  Well, your free range chickens aren't truly free range if they don't have to fend off the occasional (and free range) fox! Nothing is more natural and free range than the occasional murder between animals.
  - johndhi 3y ago
    I like where this thread is going.
  - cratermoon 3y ago
    My free range chickens are protected by free range fox predators that are communal with them. Sometimes they will eat a chicken or two, but mostly they let the chickens be because they keep the free range parasites in check.
    - PaulHoule 3y ago
      I definitely count on stinging insects that live in holes in my house (or that make holes) to keep other stinging insects away. What I've been told is that opossums are much worse than foxes in the sense that a fox will usually eat a chicken or two to survive but opossums seem to freak out and will kill all the hens in a henhouse in one go. I've often wished I could talk with my cats but more than ever I wish I could ask them what they knew about the fox. There is this lady https://www.youtube.com/@debs3289 https://www.youtube.com/@debs3289 who meets them in the street, has them come to her door, and feeds them chicken (!) Secretly I imagine that the fox is really a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsune https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsune and my wife is always reminding me that it has just one tail, not nine.
      - the_af 3y ago
        I have to say that I find foxes beautiful. Then again, I'm not a farmer nor do I keep chickens. I'm a city boy.
        PaulHoule 3y ago
        The animals we're mostly concerned about at our farm are horses and cats. I don't think there is anything left in North America that can trouble a horse, unless you count mosquito-transmitted infectious diseases. I hear foxes are not dangerous to cats but I believe we've lost some to coyotes. Mostly we've had people around, either tenants or neighbors, who keep chickens so we don't have to. I'll say the eggs from a small scale chicken operation taste a lot better than commercial eggs. I definitely thought about trying to draw in the fox but as much as that British lady makes it look easy on Youtube Shorts the legends are that foxes can cause a lot of trouble.
        the_af 3y ago
        > I believe we've lost some to coyotes Am I out of place if I say I also like coyotes? (Remember: city boy, so nothing is at stake for me here. I also like wolves!) And yeah, Japanese folklore has taught me that it's best to avoid kitsune. Though they sometimes turn into magical women who help you?
        PaulHoule 3y ago
        Really I don't take predation personally. I don't tell the SPCA, however, that I am getting a cat there because it's a replacement for one lost to predators. They die of old age, get hyperthyroidism, high blood pressure, become blind, walk around mindlessly and crash into things, and one morning you find them dead at the bottom of the stairs. I think they would find dying at the claws of a predator an honorable death. As for kitsune they are the Japanese version of a myth that is widespread in East and South Asia, for instance Daji https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daji https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daji is probably isomorphic to Tamamo-no-mae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamamo-no-Mae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamamo-no-Mae and is sometimes believed to be the same entity. I was into anime for a long time (Urusei Yatsura was a watershed but it really goes back to seeing Star Blazers on TV) but lately I have been into Chinese pop culture like Three Kingdoms, Nezha and Wolf Warrior 2 and that's gotten me reading about Chinese mythology and one clear thing is a lot of Japanese mythology comes from China, for instance it seems there is a "world tree" in almost every JRPG that they climb to get to heaven and even if they call it Yggdrasil it is not from Norse mythology it is from Chinese mythology. (Turns out also a lot of Chinese mythology as well as neopagan ideas comes from India as well.)
- hellotheretoday 3y ago
  My neighbor had 7 chickens and a rooster and lost all of them to mr. Fox. It was a tragedy, the eggs were so good.
nickpsecurity 3y ago
It's carrots. Papers say they improve eye sight. Eat too little and you can't see enough of what's in the other papers to believe their claims.

At least I get eggs from a neighbor and not “big egg”; I keep thinking about getting my own chickens but that’s not the way I want to feed Mr. Fox who lives in my neighborhood too.

the_af 3y ago
Well, your free range chickens aren't truly free range if they don't have to fend off the occasional (and free range) fox! Nothing is more natural and free range than the occasional murder between animals.
- johndhi 3y ago
  I like where this thread is going.
- cratermoon 3y ago
  My free range chickens are protected by free range fox predators that are communal with them. Sometimes they will eat a chicken or two, but mostly they let the chickens be because they keep the free range parasites in check.
  - PaulHoule 3y ago
    I definitely count on stinging insects that live in holes in my house (or that make holes) to keep other stinging insects away. What I've been told is that opossums are much worse than foxes in the sense that a fox will usually eat a chicken or two to survive but opossums seem to freak out and will kill all the hens in a henhouse in one go. I've often wished I could talk with my cats but more than ever I wish I could ask them what they knew about the fox. There is this lady https://www.youtube.com/@debs3289 https://www.youtube.com/@debs3289 who meets them in the street, has them come to her door, and feeds them chicken (!) Secretly I imagine that the fox is really a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsune https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsune and my wife is always reminding me that it has just one tail, not nine.
    - the_af 3y ago
      I have to say that I find foxes beautiful. Then again, I'm not a farmer nor do I keep chickens. I'm a city boy.
      - PaulHoule 3y ago
        The animals we're mostly concerned about at our farm are horses and cats. I don't think there is anything left in North America that can trouble a horse, unless you count mosquito-transmitted infectious diseases. I hear foxes are not dangerous to cats but I believe we've lost some to coyotes. Mostly we've had people around, either tenants or neighbors, who keep chickens so we don't have to. I'll say the eggs from a small scale chicken operation taste a lot better than commercial eggs. I definitely thought about trying to draw in the fox but as much as that British lady makes it look easy on Youtube Shorts the legends are that foxes can cause a lot of trouble.
        the_af 3y ago
        > I believe we've lost some to coyotes Am I out of place if I say I also like coyotes? (Remember: city boy, so nothing is at stake for me here. I also like wolves!) And yeah, Japanese folklore has taught me that it's best to avoid kitsune. Though they sometimes turn into magical women who help you?
        PaulHoule 3y ago
        Really I don't take predation personally. I don't tell the SPCA, however, that I am getting a cat there because it's a replacement for one lost to predators. They die of old age, get hyperthyroidism, high blood pressure, become blind, walk around mindlessly and crash into things, and one morning you find them dead at the bottom of the stairs. I think they would find dying at the claws of a predator an honorable death. As for kitsune they are the Japanese version of a myth that is widespread in East and South Asia, for instance Daji https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daji https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daji is probably isomorphic to Tamamo-no-mae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamamo-no-Mae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamamo-no-Mae and is sometimes believed to be the same entity. I was into anime for a long time (Urusei Yatsura was a watershed but it really goes back to seeing Star Blazers on TV) but lately I have been into Chinese pop culture like Three Kingdoms, Nezha and Wolf Warrior 2 and that's gotten me reading about Chinese mythology and one clear thing is a lot of Japanese mythology comes from China, for instance it seems there is a "world tree" in almost every JRPG that they climb to get to heaven and even if they call it Yggdrasil it is not from Norse mythology it is from Chinese mythology. (Turns out also a lot of Chinese mythology as well as neopagan ideas comes from India as well.)
hellotheretoday 3y ago
My neighbor had 7 chickens and a rooster and lost all of them to mr. Fox. It was a tragedy, the eggs were so good.

nickpsecurity 3y ago

It's carrots. Papers say they improve eye sight. Eat too little and you can't see enough of what's in the other papers to believe their claims.