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Thanks so much for your support. You're right about how important face-to-face interaction is. That is not going to be replaced any time soon - nor should it b

Thanks so much for your support. You're right about how important face-to-face interaction is. That is not going to be replaced any time soon - nor should it be. But for the purpose of handover, you still need a written summary of all the patients on a ward that people can refer to. As I mentioned in the post, it would be useful to see who wrote what about each patient - so that you know who to talk to for further information. Having a handover application won't replace the morning handover meeting or a person-person handover - but it will definitely make that process less painful, more accountable and much more efficient. (P.S. if I was jealous of the so called riches of being an entrepreneur - I would have focussed my energies on my medical career and right now I'd be driving my A5 from work rather than sleeping on a friend's couch thousands of miles from home :) I don't think anybody who takes this path should be under any illusion. Most start-ups fail and it's not an easy path. That said, I do love a lot of what building a company involves...)

larrys 15y ago
If you want you can email some links to the app and I will show my wife. Depending on her reaction I might be able to get in front of some people at her hospital system. I could probably also get the hospital magazine to review it or some PR there. No guarantees but when it's ready to review send me an email.
peterbessman 14y ago
Yeah... hackers are usually incredibly naive about compensation outside of their own world. For reference: http://www.medscape.com/features/slideshow/compensation/2011/ http://www.medscape.com/features/slideshow/compensation/2011... Bottom line: here in the US of A, your average doc (most certainly NOT an outlier) is making between $150k and $350k. Put that in your VC-backed pipe and smoke it. (Debt? Between $150k-$200k for 4 years of med school. Post med school training, in the form of residency and fellowship, runs anywhere from 3-12 years and pays around the $50k mark. Basically, nobody went broke by becoming a doctor.) Which means, of course, that the outliers can do very well. I have a friend who's Dad is an oral surgeon in the Eastern Shore of MD (what might be considered the "boonies" by some). He clears about $750k/year for a 35 hour work week. llimllib's wife above is probably around the $250k mark in the ER/ICU. If that ain't coin... Anybody who thinks that somebody left medicine for the money knows very little about medicine.
- llimllib 14y ago
  My wife's still a fellow, but you're right in the ballpark on the salary for residents and fellows. When she was an intern, we calculated her hourly wage at <$8. You're low on your med school debt estimate, remember that loans don't just need to cover tuition, but living expenses too. Furthermore, many of her fellow not-yet-attendings are sitting on undergraduate college debt that has been deferred until they become attendings. Nonetheless! Your overall point is totally valid. I've out-earned her for the past 6 years, but she'll even it out in about 2-3 years as an attending, and doctors frequently work well into their sixties. (Also: Baltimore represent!)
  - carbocation 14y ago
    Average student debt at time of graduation was $148k in 2010 I believe. Also, Baltimore represent!
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- jonnathanson 14y ago
  And that's to say nothing of big cities. $750k may be an outlier in Eastern MD, but it's not uncommon for specialists in NY or LA to clear $1M easily. True outliers can climb north of there. Medicine is still an extremely reliable way to become everyday rich, if not outrageously so. It beats the pants off of corporate jobs, and it beats law on average (though law outliers tend to beat medicine outliers). It loses out to investment banking, but the lifestyle is far superior. A smart person can do a lot worse than medicine.
  - itmag 14y ago
    I'm curious about those outliers. Are there any shared traits that can be identified?
    - milesskorpen 14y ago
narrow 14y ago
Really nice response, I think what most people often fail to realize is that it's not always about the money. True entrepreneurs are terrible at handling discomforts worst of one that could easily be fixed. I left a six figure salary in the medical field, sold my bmw and moved to SV from the east-coast to fix a problem that costs this country $300 billion annually in additional healthcare costs. It's about finding the best use of your talent.
- rdl 14y ago
  I'm curious which $300 billion problem this is (there are several in healthcare...)
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larrys 15y ago

If you want you can email some links to the app and I will show my wife. Depending on her reaction I might be able to get in front of some people at her hospital system. I could probably also get the hospital magazine to review it or some PR there. No guarantees but when it's ready to review send me an email.

peterbessman 14y ago

Yeah... hackers are usually incredibly naive about compensation outside of their own world. For reference: http://www.medscape.com/features/slideshow/compensation/2011/ http://www.medscape.com/features/slideshow/compensation/2011... Bottom line: here in the US of A, your average doc (most certainly NOT an outlier) is making between $150k and $350k. Put that in your VC-backed pipe and smoke it. (Debt? Between $150k-$200k for 4 years of med school. Post med school training, in the form of residency and fellowship, runs anywhere from 3-12 years and pays around the $50k mark. Basically, nobody went broke by becoming a doctor.) Which means, of course, that the outliers can do very well. I have a friend who's Dad is an oral surgeon in the Eastern Shore of MD (what might be considered the "boonies" by some). He clears about $750k/year for a 35 hour work week. llimllib's wife above is probably around the $250k mark in the ER/ICU. If that ain't coin... Anybody who thinks that somebody left medicine for the money knows very little about medicine.

llimllib 14y ago
My wife's still a fellow, but you're right in the ballpark on the salary for residents and fellows. When she was an intern, we calculated her hourly wage at <$8. You're low on your med school debt estimate, remember that loans don't just need to cover tuition, but living expenses too. Furthermore, many of her fellow not-yet-attendings are sitting on undergraduate college debt that has been deferred until they become attendings. Nonetheless! Your overall point is totally valid. I've out-earned her for the past 6 years, but she'll even it out in about 2-3 years as an attending, and doctors frequently work well into their sixties. (Also: Baltimore represent!)
- carbocation 14y ago
  Average student debt at time of graduation was $148k in 2010 I believe. Also, Baltimore represent!
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jonnathanson 14y ago
And that's to say nothing of big cities. $750k may be an outlier in Eastern MD, but it's not uncommon for specialists in NY or LA to clear $1M easily. True outliers can climb north of there. Medicine is still an extremely reliable way to become everyday rich, if not outrageously so. It beats the pants off of corporate jobs, and it beats law on average (though law outliers tend to beat medicine outliers). It loses out to investment banking, but the lifestyle is far superior. A smart person can do a lot worse than medicine.
- itmag 14y ago
  I'm curious about those outliers. Are there any shared traits that can be identified?
  - milesskorpen 14y ago

narrow 14y ago

Really nice response, I think what most people often fail to realize is that it's not always about the money. True entrepreneurs are terrible at handling discomforts worst of one that could easily be fixed. I left a six figure salary in the medical field, sold my bmw and moved to SV from the east-coast to fix a problem that costs this country $300 billion annually in additional healthcare costs. It's about finding the best use of your talent.

rdl 14y ago
I'm curious which $300 billion problem this is (there are several in healthcare...)
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