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Is there any proof that people trying to fly and jumping off a building is actually real? I always assumed it's some sort of anti drug meme that had been around

Is there any proof that people trying to fly and jumping off a building is actually real? I always assumed it's some sort of anti drug meme that had been around since forever.

Fezzik 3y ago
That does seem… odd. I’ve been enjoying mushrooms multiple times a year for 22 years. I’ve been around a lot of other people doing mushrooms. On fire lookouts. Rooftops. High in the mountains of Oregon, Washington, and Colorado. And I have never, ever seen anybody try to fly.
- abletonlive 3y ago
  You haven't been around enough people doing psychedelics then. Psychotic breaks are not uncommon. Once you're at a music festival where n=thousands you realize this. Flying and drowning in lakes is not unheard of. Everybody thinks they are immune to psychotic breaks until they do enough psychedelics and have one. This could be you some day.
  - saberience 3y ago
    You haven't been around enough people drinking booze then. Psychotic breaks are not uncommon. Once you're basically anwywhere with people drinking you realize this. Flying and drowning in lakes, murdering your wife, or dying in a fiery crash on the freeway are not unheard of. Everybody thinks they are immune to psychotic breaks until they do enough booze and have one. This could be you some day.
    - abletonlive 3y ago
      I'm not sure why you're responding in this manner. I never said alcohol was any better. I was addressing a comment that they were surprised psychotic breaks and deaths happen on psychedelics. This has nothing to do with alcohol. Seems quite petty of a response.
      - decremental 3y ago
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      - krisoft 3y ago
        > I was addressing a comment that they were surprised psychotic breaks and deaths happen on psychedelics. They were specificaly asking about people wanting to fly. “And I have never, ever seen anybody try to fly.” was the direct quote. Doesn’t say anything about psychotic breaks or deaths.
    - AllegedAlec 3y ago
      \>thing A is bad, but so is thing B, so we can't criminalize thing A Better decriminalize murder in that case.
      - saberience 3y ago
        Honest question: How many people do you think avoid murdering others because there is a law against it? Or another way of putting it, do you think that the reason more people don't go around murdering others is because the government wrote down somewhere "this is illegal"?
        AllegedAlec 3y ago
        No clue, but I also don't see how it's relevant to my tongue in cheek dismissive answer to OP
        fsckboy 3y ago
        > How many people do you think avoid murdering others because there is a law against it? if murder were legalized, the murder rate would jump, a lot.
  - Fezzik 3y ago
    Oh, I’m aware it can happen. I’ve been around people who OD or go super deep in K Holes, and been to more than enough festivals for one lifetime, but those extreme side effects don’t seem to be all that common with mushrooms. I don’t even know anyone who knows anyone who knows anyone that has had a psychotic break tripping. The dearth of information online leads me to believe it really is extremely uncommon.
    - abletonlive 3y ago
      > I don’t even know anyone who knows anyone who knows anyone that has had a psychotic break tripping. It's not that uncommon. If you don't believe me, volunteer for a medical tent for any music festival where psychedelic use is rampant. You'll get psychotic breaks all night.
      - RoyalHenOil 3y ago
        I feel like you two are talking past one another. One of you is saying "mushrooms" and the other is saying "psychedelics".
        abletonlive 3y ago
        I'm saying all psychedelics commonly cause psychotic breaks. I've had to assist people on mushroom induced psychotic breaks before. I love mushrooms as much as any other hippie and think they should be legalized but don't agree with the whitewashing that is happening in the psychedelic activist circles. Let's not swing the pendulum too far in the other direction - they should be taken seriously just like any other mind altering drug.
        pmoriarty 3y ago
        What do you mean by "psychotic break" exactly?
        abletonlive 3y ago
  - fullspectrumdev 3y ago
    Most of the times I’ve seen someone have a mental health episode while on drugs, it’s been caused by either overdose, poly drug consumption (taking a bunch of shit), or the drug they took not being the drug they thought they were taking. Or massive sleep deprivation powered by stimulant abuse over a protracted period of time.
  - mschuster91 3y ago
    The worst compounding factor is that many people do not have "trip sitters": sober people that take care no one gets up to too dumb shit, get injured, or that rude external people don't barge in and ruin the vibe.
Rebelgecko 3y ago
If you Google around it seems like there's plenty of anecdotal cases of it happening, although some of them are a bit tabloidy and sensationalized, and some of the people had multiple substances going on https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/bali-death-ong-chee-seng-balcony-fall-magic-mushrooms-a7726451.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/bali-death-ong... https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/death-leap-man-ate-magic-1066483 https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manches... https://www.irishtimes.com/news/man-jumped-from-balcony-after-taking-magic-mushrooms-1.788205 https://www.irishtimes.com/news/man-jumped-from-balcony-afte...
orangepurple 3y ago
My friend experienced a situation where she took something 10 years ago that was speedy and trippy that was sold as LSD but was clearly NOT and there was definitely a feeling of invulnerability to damage at altitude and a heightened perception of strength.
- greyface- 3y ago
  If it weren't illegal, we'd have better supply chain transparency, and your friend would have been less likely to have been sold a dangerously mislabeled substance.
Gibbon1 3y ago
I remember that as a meme of sorts in the late 1960's. And there is a film with a scene where a hippie tries to fly out a window. This is the scene, no idea what movie though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G29gdfcsgio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G29gdfcsgio
Cthulhu_ 3y ago
It's real, but highly uncommon (that is, every incident will be in the news); compare that to e.g. instances of drunken rages, alcohol poisoning, Korsakoff and drunk drivers which... is still reported on, but a lot of it goes by silently.

Is there any proof that people trying to fly and jumping off a building is actually real? I always assumed it's some sort of anti drug meme that had been around since forever.

Fezzik 3y ago

That does seem… odd. I’ve been enjoying mushrooms multiple times a year for 22 years. I’ve been around a lot of other people doing mushrooms. On fire lookouts. Rooftops. High in the mountains of Oregon, Washington, and Colorado. And I have never, ever seen anybody try to fly.

abletonlive 3y ago
You haven't been around enough people doing psychedelics then. Psychotic breaks are not uncommon. Once you're at a music festival where n=thousands you realize this. Flying and drowning in lakes is not unheard of. Everybody thinks they are immune to psychotic breaks until they do enough psychedelics and have one. This could be you some day.
- saberience 3y ago
  You haven't been around enough people drinking booze then. Psychotic breaks are not uncommon. Once you're basically anwywhere with people drinking you realize this. Flying and drowning in lakes, murdering your wife, or dying in a fiery crash on the freeway are not unheard of. Everybody thinks they are immune to psychotic breaks until they do enough booze and have one. This could be you some day.
  - abletonlive 3y ago
    I'm not sure why you're responding in this manner. I never said alcohol was any better. I was addressing a comment that they were surprised psychotic breaks and deaths happen on psychedelics. This has nothing to do with alcohol. Seems quite petty of a response.
    - decremental 3y ago
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    - krisoft 3y ago
      > I was addressing a comment that they were surprised psychotic breaks and deaths happen on psychedelics. They were specificaly asking about people wanting to fly. “And I have never, ever seen anybody try to fly.” was the direct quote. Doesn’t say anything about psychotic breaks or deaths.
  - AllegedAlec 3y ago
    \>thing A is bad, but so is thing B, so we can't criminalize thing A Better decriminalize murder in that case.
    - saberience 3y ago
      Honest question: How many people do you think avoid murdering others because there is a law against it? Or another way of putting it, do you think that the reason more people don't go around murdering others is because the government wrote down somewhere "this is illegal"?
      - AllegedAlec 3y ago
        No clue, but I also don't see how it's relevant to my tongue in cheek dismissive answer to OP
      - fsckboy 3y ago
        > How many people do you think avoid murdering others because there is a law against it? if murder were legalized, the murder rate would jump, a lot.
- Fezzik 3y ago
  Oh, I’m aware it can happen. I’ve been around people who OD or go super deep in K Holes, and been to more than enough festivals for one lifetime, but those extreme side effects don’t seem to be all that common with mushrooms. I don’t even know anyone who knows anyone who knows anyone that has had a psychotic break tripping. The dearth of information online leads me to believe it really is extremely uncommon.
  - abletonlive 3y ago
    > I don’t even know anyone who knows anyone who knows anyone that has had a psychotic break tripping. It's not that uncommon. If you don't believe me, volunteer for a medical tent for any music festival where psychedelic use is rampant. You'll get psychotic breaks all night.
    - RoyalHenOil 3y ago
      I feel like you two are talking past one another. One of you is saying "mushrooms" and the other is saying "psychedelics".
      - abletonlive 3y ago
        I'm saying all psychedelics commonly cause psychotic breaks. I've had to assist people on mushroom induced psychotic breaks before. I love mushrooms as much as any other hippie and think they should be legalized but don't agree with the whitewashing that is happening in the psychedelic activist circles. Let's not swing the pendulum too far in the other direction - they should be taken seriously just like any other mind altering drug.
        pmoriarty 3y ago
        What do you mean by "psychotic break" exactly?
        abletonlive 3y ago
- fullspectrumdev 3y ago
  Most of the times I’ve seen someone have a mental health episode while on drugs, it’s been caused by either overdose, poly drug consumption (taking a bunch of shit), or the drug they took not being the drug they thought they were taking. Or massive sleep deprivation powered by stimulant abuse over a protracted period of time.
- mschuster91 3y ago
  The worst compounding factor is that many people do not have "trip sitters": sober people that take care no one gets up to too dumb shit, get injured, or that rude external people don't barge in and ruin the vibe.

Rebelgecko 3y ago

If you Google around it seems like there's plenty of anecdotal cases of it happening, although some of them are a bit tabloidy and sensationalized, and some of the people had multiple substances going on https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/bali-death-ong-chee-seng-balcony-fall-magic-mushrooms-a7726451.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/bali-death-ong... https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/death-leap-man-ate-magic-1066483 https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manches... https://www.irishtimes.com/news/man-jumped-from-balcony-after-taking-magic-mushrooms-1.788205 https://www.irishtimes.com/news/man-jumped-from-balcony-afte...

orangepurple 3y ago

My friend experienced a situation where she took something 10 years ago that was speedy and trippy that was sold as LSD but was clearly NOT and there was definitely a feeling of invulnerability to damage at altitude and a heightened perception of strength.

greyface- 3y ago
If it weren't illegal, we'd have better supply chain transparency, and your friend would have been less likely to have been sold a dangerously mislabeled substance.

Gibbon1 3y ago

I remember that as a meme of sorts in the late 1960's. And there is a film with a scene where a hippie tries to fly out a window. This is the scene, no idea what movie though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G29gdfcsgio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G29gdfcsgio

Cthulhu_ 3y ago

It's real, but highly uncommon (that is, every incident will be in the news); compare that to e.g. instances of drunken rages, alcohol poisoning, Korsakoff and drunk drivers which... is still reported on, but a lot of it goes by silently.