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You’re asking a dangerous question. Most behind these initiatives act as if there are “white” people who are also not culturally underrepresented and do not inh
by confoundcofound 3y ago
You’re asking a dangerous question. Most behind these initiatives act as if there are “white” people who are also not culturally underrepresented and do not inhabit lower socioeconomic levels. There are black folks who grew up in BelAir and white folks who grew up poor in Appalachia.
I say that as a “brown” minority, whose immigrant family were the minority even in their own country, who is apparently supposed to self-identify as Caucasian and would not qualify for this program because I’m not Black or Hispanic or Indigenous.
It’s racist.
- paulryanrogers 3y agoRacist only in the most technical sense of the word. It's a matter of portions and percentages. Few people of color are rich, much less born rich, and far below their percentage of the population as a whole.
- peanutcrisis 3y ago[flagged]
- lijok 3y agoNoone’s being discriminated against in this program. This programme is specifically designed to assist people who have hit specific barriers due to their race or gender. I’m sure if you’re being laughed out of VC meetings for being a white man, you can apply and Apple will accept you. But I doubt the’ll have any resources or advice for you given how improbable that scenario is.
- prepend 3y ago> Noone’s being discriminated against in this program Objectively, people are being discriminated against as the program only allows some races and genders. That’s textbook discrimination. I think what your meaning is that the discrimination is intended positively to increase representation as opposed to other discrimination that is intended negatively due to hatred or exploitation.
- lijok 3y agoMaybe my understanding of the definition of “discrimination” is incorrect then. I understood the definition to be “unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people”
- prepend 3y agoPrejudicial means “ harmful to someone or something; detrimental” and this is harmful to individuals discriminated against. I think many, but not all, would find it is unjust as well.
- lijok 3y agoCould you explain how this programme is harmful to those Apple decided are ineligible to join?
- confoundcofound 3y agoI am a person of color and am not eligible for this program. Please explain. Also, that you lump poor whites who grew up in the inner city with those who grew up wealthy in Palo Alto is shocking. That Palo Alto native likely has far more in common with their black neighbor. You are advocating for racist policies. No matter how you slice your identitarianism, you will never reach total inclusion, perpetually marginalizing and discriminating against minorities you may not even be aware of. Fight on, brother.
- nxobject 3y agoWhy do you consider this question dangerous?
- peanutcrisis 3y agoOP risk being misconstrued as being racist. The fact that the original question was asked in the first place really shows how ass-backwards American society has gotten, with reverse racism being rebranded as a virtue, aka "anti-racism".
- nxobject 3y agoTo be honest, reading the OP at face value, I don't even think he we wanted to beg that question. (But I don't want to mind-read – I have a personal bias against mind-reading; I usually interpret things on the literal side is all.)